The Work Programme New Thread

LadyMissA

Gaz1971 wrote: »

No thats not the one I saw, if you were long term unemployed, one of the worst cases on JSA, the bonus was near 15k

But that is what they are getting paid

I am long term unenployed 100 weeks and they do not get anything like £15k

Show me the one you saw then?

Gaz1971

The website has changed from when I looked at it, it was several months ago, the info was on the site and not in a PDF, so maybe its changed since then.

Any way, its still a load of cash for not a lot of effort and is more than a years JSA.

LadyMissA

Gaz1971 wrote: »

The website has changed from when I looked at it, it was several months ago, the info was on the site and not in a PDF, so maybe its changed since then.

Any way, its still a load of cash for not a lot of effort and is more than a years JSA.

But the thing is the WP providers aren't getting any money as we still do not have a job!

Gaz1971

Which begs the question, how are they being funded? Ive seen on my providers website they advertise for advisers paying from 18k to 24k, then they have rent on a huge office, the phone bills must be astranomic, they are refunding your travel costs and yet get nothing until you get a job.

LadyMissA

Read this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/09/payment-results-longterm-unemployed

the line that says

'As a result providers take the financial risk for as long as two years if they are not successful.'

so, if in two years from starting the WP you do not have a job the WWP only gets £1600 and probably paid me £100 in travel of that by then!

Morlock

LadyMissA wrote: »

But the thing is the WP providers aren't getting any money as we still do not have a job!

Oh well, by the time the government admits that the Work Programme is a failure, another scheme will be devised that pumps a few more hundreds of millions of pounds in to private company coffers and their respective CEOs bank accounts. The New Deal failed dismally, so the Work Program was created, which is also failing.

LadyMissA

Gaz1971 wrote: »

Which begs the question, how are they being funded? Ive seen on my providers website they advertise for advisers paying from 18k to 24k, then they have rent on a huge office, the phone bills must be astranomic, they are refunding your travel costs and yet get nothing until you get a job.

these providers do alot more than just the WP you know.

Gaz1971

I know mine does something with under 16's, but how they make any money is a mystery.

LadyMissA

Gaz1971 wrote: »

I know mine does something with under 16's, but how they make any money is a mystery.

look on their website or ask them but if they were getting as much as you say they are then why are they not helping people into work? Here is the answer: they can't!

Gaz1971

There was a live debate on Radio 5 and BBC news last year all about the WP and one of the guests was in charge of the umbrella organisation that controls all the WP providers and he said the WP cant work as its dependent on job vacancies. Well no !!!! Sherlock, welcome to the real world.

Govt's always think they can get people back to work when there are no jobs because we are all skiving.