Best way to deal with Train Fare Evasion or Assault?

jamespir

flyingscotno1 wrote: »

Don't have that much of a problem with it to be honest. If that is assault, every bouncer in the land will be in jail soon mind you.

The student should have dealt with it in a mature manner, offering to pay, explaining there must have been a mistake, but is just swearing and acting like a complete idiot. I've seen similar non payment, wrong ticket etc on trains, totally defused by people acting rationally and offering the fare or a decent explanation.

Waiting on the BTP yeah that will happen, we'll leave a train blocking the line for 90mins whilst they try and get there. Nah the train would have moved on to the next stop and he'd have got his free hurl.

To be honest getting chucked off is probably the best course of action for him, as if the BTP had got there, if they didn't just do that for an easy life and charged him with numerous byelaw breaches he'd not be feeling as clever.

Old saying in Glasgow was c'mon get aff, and the conductors and drivers on buses and trains enforced it rigorously. Of course this was back in the day when 1. The employees was backed up against wee idiots by passengers and employers, 2. folk weren't scared of law suits or police taking things further because most of the time the police just told these wee idiots they deserved it.

Some of the stories are absolutely tremendous actually on being a conductor on Glasgow Corporation. Depending which part of the city you offended you could change to being clearly a catholic or protestant! However they are very, very timid compared to this!

bouncers have a licence to be able to do what they do this guy did not therfore its assault

robt_2

I thought I was quite liberal.

From reading this thread, turns out I am pretty right-wing. Can't believe some of the attitudes about it!

flyingscotno1

jamespir wrote: »

bouncers have a licence to be able to do what they do this guy did not therfore its assault

Ahh right a course and a poxy card from the SIA.

The student behaved appallingly in not doing what he was asked by the train staff, swearing in front of children, and showed no respect for fellow passengers on the train trying to get home. Bit of rough justice. The 70s are back, :T:p

Empty_pockets

jamespir wrote: »

bouncers have a licence to be able to do what they do this guy did not therfore its assault

Rubbish. They have a security industry licence, not a 007 licence.

ex doorman.

Strider590

I say well done to the man!!!!!

BUT the problem with vigilante action comes when people try to enforce laws that don't exist......... Like the multiple times ive had people swerve across the road at me when overtaking on hatch markings (legally).

On one hand you want people to stand up and take action, but on the other hand some clueless people go too far and actually act illegally themselves!

mikey72

Strider590 wrote: »

I say well done to the man!!!!!

BUT the problem with vigilante action comes when people try to enforce laws that don't exist......... Like the multiple times ive had people swerve across the road at me when overtaking on hatch markings (legally).

On one hand you want people to stand up and take action, but on the other hand some clueless people go too far and actually act illegally themselves!

That's the beauty of vigelante action. No discussion, no questions, the vigilante gets to choose, and if the vigilante has enough people back him, he entitled to beat up a little kid, or force you back where you belong. You could out vigilante him though, and swerve back if you think you're right.

geordie_taxi

'Victim': Student Sam Main shows the injuries he apparently sustained after being thrown off the train by a fellow passenger

vicmorrow

Studentsam is going to be on BBC Radio Scotland phone-in at ~ 10.05 am today (Wednesday 14th).

Strider590

vicmorrow wrote: »

Studentsam is going to be on BBC Radio Scotland phone-in at ~ 10.05 am today (Wednesday 14th).

Is that the guy?

Then student sam needs to man the f**k up and grow the balls he seemed to think he had in the first place..... I hope he get's the p!ss ripped out of him.

mustrum_ridcully

I heard an interview with the bloke who filmed the clip and he more or less said that if the student hadn't been acting like a total ned he might actually have paid his fare for him! Oh and the student had apparently been swearing for around five minutes before he even started filming.