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Can I ask for my postman to be changed?-parcel now LOST!

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  • lovinituk wrote: »
    Yes thats possible. Its a packet rather than a letter or large letter and its recorded so requires a signature.



    So you said you were passing later anyway so call in. Worse answer you will get is come back tomorrow.


    Yes - as above, a packet is too large for your letter box and its recorded so needs your signature!!


    Its simple really!!

    On the face of it yes, but in the postal system, those descriptors are for different classes of items. you send items as 'packets' if they are unregistered, its not a description of the item itself, its the class its been sent under (like 1st class, 2nd class etc for letters).
    Please excuse my bad spelling and missing letters-I post here using either my iPhone or rathr rubbishy netbook, neither of whch have excellent keyboards! Sorry!
  • lovinituk
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    you send items as 'packets' if they are unregistered,
    Sorry but you are wrong! I am a business seller with a Royal Mail account and 'packet' relates to the size of the item and the associated cost of sending it. Letter is the smallest size and then Large Letter. Anything over 353mmx250mmx25mm and/or over 750grams is classed as a packet and generally will not fit through a letter box.

    I should know as I send them everyday!!
  • Keith
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    This time, he has ticked both the 'recorded Signed for' and 'packet' boxes

    This is what your item is, a recorded delivery item, that is in the packet size.

    You can always opt to have the item redelivered on a day that you are around.
  • peachyprice
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    edited 9 December 2011 at 3:27PM
    On the face of it yes, but in the postal system, those descriptors are for different classes of items. you send items as 'packets' if they are unregistered, its not a description of the item itself, its the class its been sent under (like 1st class, 2nd class etc for letters).


    A packet doesn't mean it can't be recorded signed for, wherever did you get that idea from? It's the items size.

    Recorded means you have to sign for it, packet is it's size. He's ticked packet so that when you go to collect it the postman at the sorting office as a clue as to the size of item he's looking for.

    It's all here:

    http://www.royalmail.com/delivery/business-delivery-options-uk/recorded-signed/prices
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  • lovinituk
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    its the class its been sent under (like 1st class, 2nd class etc for letters).
    This is nonsense as well!! You can have 1st or 2nd class in letters, large letters or packets. And any of those can be sent recorded as well.

    Your dad may well have worked for Royal Mail, but you clearly know very little about it!

    I'm starting to wonder if the problems before were down to your own misunderstandings.
  • lovinituk wrote: »
    Sorry but you are wrong! I am a business seller with a Royal Mail account and 'packet' relates to the size of the item and the associated cost of sending it. Letter is the smallest size and then Large Letter. Anything over 353mmx250mmx25mm and/or over 750grams is classed as a packet and generally will not fit through a letter box.

    I should know as I send them everyday!!

    Yes, you send them, but do you put them through the mail system? When I showed it to my dad, who worked on the post Office counter, and in the mail system for over 30 years til he retired, that is what he told me. The boxes refer to the class of item as it was sent. The fact that its a packet, and that it is too large are irrelivent, as its a recorded item that needs to be signed for, and so to avoid confusion, only those should be ticked.

    I don't know what else I can tell you, I'm going off 30 years of experience, and what I was told by this mans boss last time I complained.
    Please excuse my bad spelling and missing letters-I post here using either my iPhone or rathr rubbishy netbook, neither of whch have excellent keyboards! Sorry!
  • lovinituk wrote: »
    I'm starting to wonder if the problems before were down to your own misunderstandings.

    If they were, then the manager of the depot doesn't understand the system either, as he agreed with me when I complained last time.
    Please excuse my bad spelling and missing letters-I post here using either my iPhone or rathr rubbishy netbook, neither of whch have excellent keyboards! Sorry!
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Yes, you send them, but do you put them through the mail system? When I showed it to my dad, who worked on the post Office counter, and in the mail system for over 30 years til he retired, that is what he told me. The boxes refer to the class of item as it was sent. The fact that its a packet, and that it is too large are irrelivent, as its a recorded item that needs to be signed for, and so to avoid confusion, only those should be ticked.

    I don't know what else I can tell you, I'm going off 30 years of experience, and what I was told by this mans boss last time I complained.
    You really are making this more complicated than it needs to be. The fact that its a packet is irrelevant as it still needs a signature. At the same time it doesn't matter that he has also ticked that its a packet - it changes nothing!! You still need to go and collect it because it needs a signature!

    If it wasn't recorded, it would still be a packet and would not fit through your letter box so it would still need to be collected by you.

    Seriously!! Get a grip, take the advice given here.

    If I was your postman I would be asking to change routes!!!!
  • peachyprice
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    You haven't answered, why do you think a packet means it can't be recorded signed for?
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  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    And having a go at my father is helpful how exactly?

    I'm not 'having a go' at you father, but if he's the one telling you that it can't be recorded signed for because it's a packet, he is wrong. If taking advice from him means you're losing parcels he needs to get his facts right before telling you.
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