am fuming, sorry its a rant

DUTR

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

right so the story i have got is that both the boys were mucking around inside the bus stop punching each other (for some strange reason) the man who my boy says looked around 50 stopped the van shouted at him and pushed him in to the bus stop, the boys are both sticking to their story and are adament they was not mucking around in the road or throwing stuff just hitting each other. maybe the man thought this wrong or looked more serious than it was.

anyway the police arent coming over tonight as they are too busy so we have to go to the station over the weekend to make a statement and go from there. i would just like to know why from the mans point of view

They can both stick to a story, does not mean they are telling the truth, it would seem odd that a stranger would perform such actions without any kind of provocation

adelight

DUTR wrote: »

They can both stick to a story, does not mean they are telling the truth, it would seem odd that a stranger would perform such actions without any kind of provocation

Indeed. If it is true, it could have looked like your son was beating the other one up and the bloke wanted to intervene.
If they were doing something more naughty/dangerous they may well have been so angry at the bloke that they wanted to get him in trouble forgetting it would get them in trouble too.
Seems like a waste of police time to me, like calling the police because you got punched by someone that you punched or someone stole your plant pot. The crime is not worth the effort in getting the truth and "justice".

blue_monkey_2

Sounds like typical lads, I lose count the number of times that I've seen lads hitting each other with one coming off worse and I have wondered whether to go and do something, but being a woman, I haven't and left them to it.

Maybe this man thought that your son was beating the other lad up and so got out and wanted to stop him and did so by shoving him away from the other lad without thinking of the consequences. He was not to know they were friends, was he. Not right that he shoved him, but if he had of stopped one boy beating another one up, maybe he would have been right.

Thanks for updating us. I guess it depends what you want to do about it I guess - but please tell your son and his friend to stop fighting in the street in case the same thing happens again. I never know what to do when I see boys fighting, you never know who is holding a weapon these days and maybe this man thought he was doing the right thing in protecting the other lad.

mumps

I can't believe why so many people blame the child and why people think it is a waste of police time.

I remember when I was at school, many years ago, a girl came into school. Teacher was shouting at her and she explained she had been abducted by a man on the way home from school the night before and had then spent some hours at Police Station so she had slept in. Teacher told her not to tell lies, stop being silly etc etc. She looked a bit silly herself half an hour or so later when a Police Officer arrived to ask the girl a couple of questions to clarify something.

I would always give a child the benefit of the doubt, if it comes out that he is lying that can be dealt with but in the meantime I would trust him.

DUTR

mumps wrote: »

I can't believe why so many people blame the child and why people think it is a waste of police time.

I remember when I was at school, many years ago, a girl came into school. Teacher was shouting at her and she explained she had been abducted by a man on the way home from school the night before and had then spent some hours at Police Station so she had slept in. Teacher told her not to tell lies, stop being silly etc etc. She looked a bit silly herself half an hour or so later when a Police Officer arrived to ask the girl a couple of questions to clarify something.

I would always give a child the benefit of the doubt, if it comes out that he is lying that can be dealt with but in the meantime I would trust him.

I can't see where anyone is blaming the children.

Barneysmom

Your son's done nothing wrong here, he was larking about with his mate but wasn't doing anything malicious at all.

, There are nutters about and you can't be too careful, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, your boy and his safety come first, so make sure you go on the weekend so he can do a proper statement.

Kay_Peel

The man may well have thought he was rescuing a child from a beating at the hands of a bully.

I've been in a situation recently where I debated with myself about intervening in a play-fight. A little ginger-haired lad was being 'playfully' strangled by his tie by a big lad. The big one then punched him with his knuckles on the head, not once but constantly. The little one didn't respond, just rolled with the punches. He was trying to laugh it off but you could see that he was really hurting. I decided not to intervene in case I embarressed the ginger-haired boy in front of his so-called friends and gave them further cause to tease him. Later on, I really regretted not saying something.

Perhaps your driver didn't hesitate when he saw (what looked like) a bully, like I did?

meritaten

mirrorimage - I hope you find out what happened this weekend, I bet you are concerned about your sons safety. I know I would be too. Please post back when you know.

I also have to say that I am disgusted at how many people have posted up all these 'scenarios' of what they 'think' happened! You all werent there! You DONT know these kids did anything dangerous but you are ASSUMING they did! because they are kids! If the OP had posted that she was with a friend and they were mucking about a bit and a strange guy jumped out of a van and threatened them and actually physically assaulted them...........you would be baying for his blood!
Why? because like another poster you assume that ALL kids are liars? you have no basis to assume that! if your own kids are liars then that is your problem, dont assume everyone elses kids are liars too!

DUTR

meritaten wrote: »

mirrorimage - I hope you find out what happened this weekend, I bet you are concerned about your sons safety. I know I would be too. Please post back when you know.

I also have to say that I am disgusted at how many people have posted up all these 'scenarios' of what they 'think' happened! You all werent there! You DONT know these kids did anything dangerous but you are ASSUMING they did! because they are kids! If the OP had posted that she was with a friend and they were mucking about a bit and a strange guy jumped out of a van and threatened them and actually physically assaulted them...........you would be baying for his blood!
Why? because like another poster you assume that ALL kids are liars? you have no basis to assume that! if your own kids are liars then that is your problem, dont assume everyone elses kids are liars too!

You were not there either, so how do you know the vehicle driver was strange?
I have seen kids fooling about whilst driving and I have stopped to ask if they were fooling around or not.
What if in the case of the OP her lad was being beaten up and people were just passing by ignoring it, cos they thought they were just kids folling about, you would still be whinging that nobody bothered to intervene.

balletshoes

DUTR wrote: »

You were not there either, so how do you know the vehicle driver was strange?
I have seen kids fooling about whilst driving and I have stopped to ask if they were fooling around or not.
What if in the case of the OP her lad was being beaten up and people were just passing by ignoring it, cos they thought they were just kids folling about, you would still be whinging that nobody bothered to intervene.

exactly - in fact, there was another poster on this forum recently who posted about her 11-year old son having a fall on the pavement and no-one helping him - general opinion was then that adults should have stopped and offered him some aid. How, on the face of it, is this any different? Van man sees 2 lads punching each other (according to the OP). He stops, and pushes one lad away from the other and into the bus shelter. He really may have thought he was doing a good turn and stopping one boy from being beaten by the other?

We don't know - but I agree with a previous poster OP - best tell your son to stop punching his mates in public. I think, generally, that might be the best way of minimising the chance of this happening again.