e petition asking for internet constrols on !!!!!! etc

surfsister

suited-aces wrote: »

Luckily my other half does have a brain cell, but to answer your questions about why some men wouldn't want their wives to know, I'd hazard a guess it's because of idiots like yourself who brainwash them into thinking that looking at a harmless pair of tits, or a poorly scripted sex scene makes you a potential rapist or child molester.

And to be perfectly honest, when you consider the plight of citizens of oppressive regimes like North Korea, people like you should be deeply ashamed of the fact you're clamouring for increased government control of the internet.

Here's radical idea, how about you just try limiting your own kids access like a good parent should. Don't go attacking our civil liberties to compensate for your own deficiencies.

I don't object to this type of very mild stuff it's hardcore I'm talking about here as you well know women sleeping with dogs being beaten etc

Emmzi

surfsister wrote: »

we're thinking of kids not men's egos here surely?? if !!!!!! is ok why don't men share it with their wives? Why do they feel the need to hide it up??? of course we all know the answer to that!

We never "all" know the answer to anything because people are different and have different viewpoints.

I was having a bit of a conversation with jamespir over why I find page 3 more disturbing than !!!!!! though, due to the normalisastion process.

Different point.

Lotus-eater

surfsister wrote: »

we're thinking of kids not men's egos here surely?? if !!!!!! is ok why don't men share it with their wives? Why do they feel the need to hide it up??? of course we all know the answer to that!

I do share it with my wife and so do many more.

If they hide it, it's because the women are like you and don't realise the need of men.

Not everyone is as bigoted and small minded as you. And I presume you are going to argue this till you are blue in the face and looking extremely silly.

Lotus-eater

Btw the Sun doesn't have women with fake breasts on their page 3, they stopped that some time ago I think. And I looked at it the other day and it had no topless page 3, so maybe things are changing slowly.
The Star though, that's almost !!!!!!, but there will always be a place for something like this, I think it's impossible to stop.

Lotus-eater

surfsister wrote: »

I don't object to this type of very mild stuff it's hardcore I'm talking about here as you well know women sleeping with dogs being beaten etc

You mean the stuff that's already illegal to view over here?

Emmzi

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I do share it with my wife and so do many more.

If they hide it, it's because the women are like you and don't realise the need of men.

Not everyone is as bigoted and small minded as you. And I presume you are going to argue this till you are blue in the face and looking extremely silly.

I almost agree but would say it is a want not a need. You won't die without !!!!!!. And people shouldn't feel pressured into allowing it because their partner NEEEEEEEDS it.

If both people in a relationship derive pleasure and neither feels pressured, and the !!!!!! itself was from a reputable source (ie the actors had free choice) then go for it. Quite a lot of conditions there but it works for many

RubyRue

surfsister wrote: »

I don't object to this type of very mild stuff it's hardcore I'm talking about here as you well know women sleeping with dogs being beaten etc

The petition doesn't actually make that distinction, all it says is it wants to block !!!!!!, not only block the hardcore stuff.

bobajob_1966 wrote: »

I also wonder who those that want the ban expect the scheme to administered, and who is to pay for the work involved?

The answer to that is simple, the person who would be paying for this would be you and me... i.e. the customer. The cost to bring a blocking mechanism of this kind would very huge, especially if it applies to every single ISP in the UK, which if it has any chance to be anywhere near effective it would need to. Now the government certainly won't be paying for it and neither would the Church of England. The ISP wouldn't just swallow that cost so it would be passed on to the customer in the form of increased bills. Don't forget this would need to be maintained indefinitely due to the nature of the internet... that is one hell of a bill to combat something where there are already tools in place... free ones even... that people can use to filter the internet on their own computers.

vax2002

!!!!!! is the ship, political and anti government comments and views are the passengers.
Dont worry Sheep, bray loud enough, the butcher will get round anyway.

MissMitch

I wouldn't sign either of them in a million years. I find the average article in the Daily Mail et al about any woman who has the audacity to live past her youth to be miles more offensive and derogatory to women than anything I've ever seen on page 3. I think the whole of the media, advertising, the cult of celebrity and everything else we're subjected to every day is just as guilty of 'objectifying' women, (and men) and making us feel that unless people conform to certain ideals, we don't exist!

And !!!!!! is fine so long as it only involves one, two or more consenting adults. It's a parent's responsibility to raise their own child and monitor that child's behaviour and if they're raised with enough self-respect and respect for others I'm sure they'll naturally have a healthier attitude towards sex & sexual partners anyway. It should be a given that sex is natural, healthy and damn good fun! Hiding it away and making it forbidden and taboo creates more issues than raising children with a healthy, open-minded view of their sexuality.

And don't even get me started on the evils of censorship! :mad:

worried_jim

surfsister wrote: »

we're thinking of kids not men's egos here surely?? if !!!!!! is ok why don't men share it with their wives? Why do they feel the need to hide it up??? of course we all know the answer to that!

Many years ago it was my dirty little (or big) secret. Then I moved in with my GF and lo and behold her !!!!!! collection was massive. !!!!!! is not just a male thing.