Payslips

hello2007

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persa

hello2007 wrote: »

I have started a new job and as it is getting close to payday I asked about payslip. I was told that it is company policy not to give paysilp. If there are no payslips how do know that they are taking tax and national insurance. I have asked for a paysilp they are not sure when they will give me one. There are other staff that have been working there a year and never had a paysilp or p60 at the end of the tax year. I called the tax office and they said if my employer is not paying tax then I will have to pay it myself. I have only been in my job for a few weeks if I make a fuss about the paysilps then I could get the sack.

There was a similar query on this earlier - as I said then, I think employees can only be pursued by HMRC for unpaid tax if HMRC has tried to go after the employer and failed and it can be shown that the employee knew no tax was being withheld from their salary.

Is this a permanent job? If so, do you have a contract or offer of employment setting out your salary?

If you know what the gross is meant to be, you can check your estimated take home using a salary calculator website - or if your income is more complicated, post on the Cutting Tax board and someone will be able to help.

If you check that take home to what is actually going into your bank account, I think that's you having covered your back.

LadyMissA

They have to give you a payslip by law

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1074424999&type=RESOURCES

Mistral001

If the employer is taking the money from your pay and not paying it to HMRC then its fraud, so it is a bit tricky questioning them as you are basically acusing them of a serious criminal offence. There was a post here earlier today on this subject. It was a case of someone who worked for an employer who went bust and could not pay HMRC the PAYE and NI, and HMRC took action against the employees for non-payment of taxes. Again a tricky situation, you will be accusing the new employer of either being fraudsters or about to go bust.

BTW the post is as follows, but I would not get too paranoid about it.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3574433

LadyMissA

Mistral001 wrote: »

If the employer is taking the money from your pay and not paying it to HMRC then its fraud, so it is a bit tricky questioning them as you are basically acusing them of a serious criminal offence. There was a post here earlier today on this subject. It was a case of someone who worked for an employer who went bust and could not pay HMRC the PAYE and NI, and HMRC took action against the employees for non-payment of taxes. Again a tricky situation, you will be acussing the new employer of either being fraudsters or about to go bust.

BTW the post is as follows, but I would not get too paranoid about it.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3574433

you don't need to accuse them of fraud, you just point out that the payslip is a legal requirement if they are paying under the PAYE system and not assuming you are self employed?

Mistral001

LadyMissA wrote: »

They have to give you a payslip by law

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1074424999&type=RESOURCES

There you have it. I was just about to say there should be a law making payslips compulsary.

hello2007

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LadyMissA

hello2007 wrote: »

The job is PAYE and is permanent the contract said that you are paid on the last working day of the month into the bank. If there are changes in pay it will be on your itemised pay statement but I have been told that you do not get paysilps but can request them and they do not know when they will give them to you.

You do not need to ask/request a payslip it is law

hello2007

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LadyMissA

hello2007 wrote: »

The last person that made a fuss about paysilp get sacked for that and other reason so I do not want to make a fuss about the paysilps but I need to know that I am paying tax,ni and my student loan.

Ask yourself this, why did they sack them? Just for asking for a payslip? Really? They can't be paying the Tax and NI then if they sack someone just for asking for a payslip.

If you don't want to ask you will become liable for all the tax and ni if they aren't paying it - good luck

SarEl

hello2007 wrote: »

The job is PAYE and is permanent the contract said that you are paid on the last working day of the month into the bank. If there are changes in pay it will be on your itemised pay statement but I have been told that you do not get paysilps but can request them and they do not know when they will give them to you.

Perhaps I am being partuclarly dense here - but isn't an itemised pay statement a "payslip"?

The requirement in law is that the employer must give you a statement which contains:
amount of your wages before any deductions (gross wages)
individual amount of any fixed deductions (such as trade union subscriptions) or the total amount of these deductions if you are given a 'standing statement of fixed deductions' as detailed below
individual amount of any variable deductions (for example tax)
net amount of your wages (this is the total after deductions)
amount and method for any part-payment of wage (such as separate figures of a cash payment and the balance credited to a bank account)
It does not have to be physically given to you as a payslip, many employers now provide the required documentation by e-mail or secure intranet. So I agree with the OP - before making a fuss as a new employee, it would be a really good idea to ask what they mean by "it isn't company policy" - because company policy may be to provide this information in another format that the traditional "payslip".