Prams on buses

custardy

jojo1964 wrote: »

Ok so you have an explicit rule that a wheelchair user gets priority, since when have people taken notice of rules, yes the majority probably will, but i can guarantee that there will always be some who wont.

do you think a1st come 1st served would be better?
battles at the bus stops,getting on etc
I dont know if its the answer but as I say it seems to work fine here

geoffky

what's a bus ?:cool:

custardy

geoffky wrote: »

what's a bus ?:cool:

the big thing passing all the cars not allowed in the bus lane.
or mainly for me . yet another vehicle I'm beating on the bike

jojo1964

geoffky wrote: »

what's a bus ?:cool:

Its a vehicle driven by people like me earning £30,000 a year, and best of all being paid to sit in traffic jams, whilst passengers fret about whether they will get to work, or their hospital appointment on time.

Down side, passengers, other motorists, cyclists and management.

Not that im an old cynic.

mumps

Nicki wrote: »

I hadn't understood the issue to be asking the elderly/disabled person to move so the mum could sit down. I understood it to be asking them to move so the pushchair can fit in the space provided. Certainly when I take my pushchair on the bus there is not usually room to sit in the space alongside the buggy.

If that is what happened to your MIL it is clearly wrong, as the mother with the baby in the pushchair can stand just as well as any other passenger on the bus. But if your MIL was preventing the pushchair getting on the bus at all by sitting where she was, and there were other accessible seats she could use but was choosing not to, then I do think she ought to have sat elsewhere. I know that you disagree with this, and I have read and thought about what you have said but it is still my opinion

I think it is a bit confused, some people are talking about buggies v wheelchairs but the original post was about an old lady being asked to move, now I am not clear if it was so the mother could sit in the seat or if she was blocking the puchair, looking at the photo on the link someone posted it would look like the lady sitting down wouldn't actually stop someone parking a buggy. Certainly for my MIL the issue was about the mothers wanting her to move so they could sit next to the buggy, i.e. they felt they had a priority on the seats by the buggy/wheelchair space which I think is unfair, and the bus company confirmed it was wrong as several people on here have, including a bus driver.

Just to add she never once mentioned wheelchair users or anyone with them was a problem, I assume not all mothers behaved badly but reading what the bus driver has said it seems reasonable to assume my MIL wasn't making this up and it saddens me to think young women, presumably with mothers and grandmothers of their own, would behave like this.

jojo1964

mumps wrote: »

I think it is a bit confused, some people are talking about buggies v wheelchairs but the original post was about an old lady being asked to move, now I am not clear if it was so the mother could sit in the seat or if she was blocking the puchair, looking at the photo on the link someone posted it would look like the lady sitting down wouldn't actually stop someone parking a buggy. Certainly for my MIL the issue was about the mothers wanting her to move so they could sit next to the buggy, i.e. they felt they had a priority on the seats by the buggy/wheelchair space which I think is unfair, and the bus company confirmed it was wrong as several people on here have, including a bus driver.

Just to add she never once mentioned wheelchair users or anyone with them was a problem, I assume not all mothers behaved badly but reading what the bus driver has said it seems reasonable to assume my MIL wasn't making this up and it saddens me to think young women, presumably with mothers and grandmothers of their own, would behave like this.

Off topic, but generally it fits to a certain extent, my latest incident involved some elderly passengers asking a young male to take his feet off one of the seats, he refused and verbally abused them, this was not known by me until another passenger getting off mentioned it to me, i looked back saw he had his feet on the seats and asked him , politely, to take his feet off the seat, the result!!!, he jumped up, screamed abuse at the elderly passengers, and when i told him to get off the bus, was treated to some colourful language, he finally got off the bus and as i shut the doors, thought he was hard enough to spit at the closed doors and told me what he would do to me if he ever saw me again, having had enough by now, i opened the doors and went to get off the bus, only to see him run off after that, might have been something to do with me being 6ft 2in and 20 stone, not something advised, but as the advert says, the look on his face, priceless.

jojo1964

Just to add that we carry spit kits as standard now.

Lip_Stick

On the buses I use (generally Stagecoach), the seats for the eldery and infirm are those behind those around the wheelchair/pram spaces.

My sister, who has never had children, won't move for parents who put pushchairs in the spaces. Her thinking is that she's paid for her ticket blah blah. She doesn't think of the needs of the child in the pushchair. hmmm

Thing is, someone needs to be in good contol on the pushchair while it's in that position, and sitting down beside it is the best and safest place for both parent and child. Also some of the younger children might get a bit stressed at being in the space without seeing their parent.

As a parent with a young child I find the majority of the public, with regards to the attitude of seating lovely. I generally get offered a seat near to the pram but most times it's a quick journey so I don't take it. I'll say the majority who do this are of an older generation.

Lip_Stick

geoffky wrote: »

what's a bus ?:cool:

The thing you got conceived in.

Doom_and_Gloom

jojo1964 wrote: »

The majority do, but some parents from certain estates seem unable to string a sentence together without adding f****** bus drivers, or w***** to it.

Personally i would simply allow it to be a first come first served basis, particularly on the routes i work on which have a frequency of between every 3.5 to every 10 minutes.

Another argument could be that those with buggies are more likely to be fare paying, as opposed to those in wheelchairs who wont be paying..

That is lovely for you but some people have a much longer wait. Some of the bus routes around here areevery 30-60 mins depending on time. If I get to a bus and have to then wait 30-60 mins in my wheelchair I am not going to be happy and neither is my partner. There is another bus stop that we could use instead to go where we usually go but it is quite a distance and at most is every 10mins (due to cuts etc they are talking about putting it at ever 20mins at best :mad::mad:).

Also why should I have to wait because I have a disabled bus pass? My partner comes with me on all bus routes and he pays - same as a mother/farther with a buggy as a baby/child in a buggy goes on for free.

It is much easier for a parent with a buggy to get off and walk than it is for a person pushing a disabled person to push the person or if on their own the disabled person to self propell themselves. People do not realise that it is not easy to push someone in a wheelchair or self propell. Pushing a buggy is MUCH easier.