Prams on buses

DCodd

custardy wrote: »

ahh. yet another with the blah blah we did it etc etc
So nothing in the world has changed and nothing should improve in peoples lives

I'm all for improvements, just so long as we don't lose the manners and gain an entitlement mentality. Seems as though one begets the other these days though, afterall it is a choice to have a baby and one thing it is not is a disability.

mumps

jojo_2012 wrote: »

Oh and anyone who says fold up a buggy on the bus while holding a baby who hasn't actually tried it needs to !!!!!!. It's hard. A bit of common decency and respect for others space is whats needed. Maybe we need more buggy and wheelchair space as it sounds like theres not a lot.

I've done it times 4, does that mean I can speak? I mean 4 babies not four bus journeys, couldn't really count the number of bus journeys.

PoorCharleyBear

In days gone by, there were more local shops- people lived and shopped in the local area.

If 20 years ago, people had had to hike out to Tescos on the edge of a retail park 6 miles away, they would not have been walking with 3 kids and a cheery disposition. And disabled folk would probably have been expected to stay near home back then.

Surely these changes are to make peoples' lives easier, not to compete about 'how we had it tough but managed with a cup of cold tea'.

Bit of respect and courtesy generally would be a positive thing.

geoffky

Lip_Stick wrote: »

The thing you got conceived in.

A bit near the truth for my liking..if only you knew:o

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

As a new mum with Rheumatoid Arthritis flaring, I relied on the buggy for support and the bus because I couldn't walk that far. At the time you still had to fold everything down. When our area got a tram system, it was wonderful as you could roll the buggy on, laden with shopping and you weren't confined indoors due to being unable to walk far.


Because it is possible to be disabled and a parent.


People seem to have forgotten that.

And someone tapping on my shoulder expecting me to move from my seat isn't going to get much cooperation.

My Freedom pass means I have as much right to be there as anyone else - and I do not have to share my medical history with a stranger on a bus to do that.


'I don't need this seat? You mean I'm cured? How wonderful.'

mumps

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

As a new mum with Rheumatoid Arthritis flaring, I relied on the buggy for support and the bus because I couldn't walk that far. At the time you still had to fold everything down. When our area got a tram system, it was wonderful as you could roll the buggy on, laden with shopping and you weren't confined indoors due to being unable to walk far.


Because it is possible to be disabled and a parent.


People seem to have forgotten that.

And someone tapping on my shoulder expecting me to move from my seat isn't going to get much cooperation.

My Freedom pass means I have as much right to be there as anyone else - and I do not have to share my medical history with a stranger on a bus to do that.


'I don't need this seat? You mean I'm cured? How wonderful.'

But this thread was about an elderly lady (Ithink with walking stick) being told to move for someone, not a mother being asked to move.

mumps

PoorCharleyBear wrote: »

In days gone by, there were more local shops- people lived and shopped in the local area.

If 20 years ago, people had had to hike out to Tescos on the edge of a retail park 6 miles away, they would not have been walking with 3 kids and a cheery disposition. And disabled folk would probably have been expected to stay near home back then.

Surely these changes are to make peoples' lives easier, not to compete about 'how we had it tough but managed with a cup of cold tea'.

Bit of respect and courtesy generally would be a positive thing.

Surely the point is mothers could fold buggies, it might not be the easiest way, might not be the way they want to do it but they could. The person in the wheelchair can't. The elderly disabled person could move but in many people's opinion it would be harder for them than the mother. Respect and courtesy would be nice both ways.

Have a look at what the bus driver has said, no mention of elderly people swearing at him, or spitting at him.

Doom_and_Gloom

I have to say after today I can't believe some people with prams.

I got on the bus in my wheelchair all was okay.

A woman with a double pram got on and was just able to fit opposite where I was which although not great worked okay and was safe for her, her children and other passengers so fair enough.

Then another woman wanted on with a pushchair! Did She listen to the bus driver saying there was no room? No she didn't give a to$$ and got on anyway :mad:. She got on blocking most of the walk way doing so. She wasn't even the last needing to get on so loads of people including a poor old woman with obvious mobility problems had a really hard time getting past the mother and the pushchair. She didn't even think about other people needing to get on or the rules of the bus.
Neither woman folded their pushchair down - the woman with the double pram had reasonable reason not to as two children and a pram is going to be basically imposible to do on her own and no one was going to help but the mother with the single pram had no excuse. She just stood there in the middle of the walk way not caring that she was causing problems. She shouldn't have even got on as the bus driver quite rightly said there was no room but she refused to be told no :mad::mad:. I couldn't believe her ignorance and was really worried for the old lady that had to squeeze past as she could easily have got hurt. What I think made this worse was it was one of the bus routes that is every 10 mins (at certain times only) when this happened.

custardy

mumps wrote: »

Surely the point is mothers could fold buggies, it might not be the easiest way, might not be the way they want to do it but they could. The person in the wheelchair can't. The elderly disabled person could move but in many people's opinion it would be harder for them than the mother. Respect and courtesy would be nice both ways.

Have a look at what the bus driver has said, no mention of elderly people swearing at him, or spitting at him.

they send their chav family to do it for them.
lazy old sods

jojo1964

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

I have to say after today I can't believe some people with prams.

I got on the bus in my wheelchair all was okay.

A woman with a double pram got on and was just able to fit opposite where I was which although not great worked okay and was safe for her, her children and other passengers so fair enough.

Then another woman wanted on with a pushchair! Did She listen to the bus driver saying there was no room? No she didn't give a to$$ and got on anyway :mad:. She got on blocking most of the walk way doing so. She wasn't even the last needing to get on so loads of people including a poor old woman with obvious mobility problems had a really hard time getting past the mother and the pushchair. She didn't even think about other people needing to get on or the rules of the bus.
Neither woman folded their pushchair down - the woman with the double pram had reasonable reason not to as two children and a pram is going to be basically imposible to do on her own and no one was going to help but the mother with the single pram had no excuse. She just stood there in the middle of the walk way not caring that she was causing problems. She shouldn't have even got on as the bus driver quite rightly said there was no room but she refused to be told no :mad::mad:. I couldn't believe her ignorance and was really worried for the old lady that had to squeeze past as she could easily have got hurt. What I think made this worse was it was one of the bus routes that is every 10 mins (at certain times only) when this happened.

Then the bus would have stayed put until the situation was resolved, the problem where i work is that two companies have different rules, ours is one unfolded buggy or wheelchair per bus (or two on the adapted ones) the other company allow as many as they can get on, and as you have seen yourself, when that happens it makes life very hard for other passengers.

On another note, i had to laugh yesterday when a woman insisted i allow her on with her pushbike, as she had a puncture and couldnt be expected to walk the bike home, she got very agitated when i explained we were not equipped to carry bikes. No doubt an email has already winged its way to HQ complaining about my unhelpful manner.