Prams on buses

missesther

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

Well in my experience, today's senior citizens demand respect from us young uns' and complain about us, yet they are usually the 1st ones to push in the bus/supermarket queue whatever and moan if we have the bare faced cheek to even think about going into the post office on pension day! :eek:

Pension day? I thought pensions were paid into bank accounts now? My gran hasn't gone to the post office to pick up her pension in years!

Azari

missesther wrote: »

Pension day? I thought pensions were paid into bank accounts now? My gran hasn't gone to the post office to pick up her pension in years!

Thanks for pointing that out.

When I saw it I thought it was odd that they were still able to collect pensions from the PO.

KxMx

Rather OT but pensioners can have a Post Office card account for their pensions to be paid into, hence going into the PO still to draw out the money.

missesther

KxMx wrote: »

Rather OT but pensioners can have a Post Office card account for their pensions to be paid into, hence going into the PO still to draw out the money.

But surely they don't have to draw out the cash right on their actual pension day? They must be able draw it out on any day avoiding the so-called "pension day" rush.

split_second

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

That is the thing though the rules of the bus were ignored by this woman. She should not have got on as it was obvious to everyone that there was no room for her.

"In particular, you must not

• Obstruct any emergency exits, the vehicle entrance next to the driver, gangways or other locations on the bus in any way that would inhibit safety"

"During travel, buggies, prams, pushchairs, wheelchairs and scooters must be securely positioned so that they are stable and do not cause an obstruction or hazard to other customers."

Her pram was blocking the gangway and was a hazard to other customers. This was the problem. The woman got on the bus even though the driver stated there was no room, refused to get off once she had forced her way on and caused major problems. The bus by this time was running late and a different numbered bus needed to stop where it was so the driver went. The woman got off at the next stop anyway which was certainly a walkable distance for her, she was just too bloody lazy. You can guess what kind of a person she was.

round here they just say 'no room' and shut the doors

KxMx

missesther wrote: »

But surely they don't have to draw out the cash right on their actual pension day? They must be able draw it out on any day avoiding the so-called "pension day" rush.

Alot of pensioners are fond of their routine is all I can say to that!

missesther

KxMx wrote: »

Alot of pensioners are fond of their routine is all I can say to that!

LOL- that's probably true!! I will say though, my gran was fine with having the money paid into her account. However, she forgot to spend it and then would sit in the freezing cold worried about rising energy costs.

Sadly, if she was still going to the PO for the pension then she may have realised she could pay for it and have been fine.

Leif

I feel sorry for people who have to travel on buses, and trains too for that matter. The last time I went on a bus through choice was over 4 years ago, to collect my car from the garage. It cost a fortune and took at least twice as long as it would have done in a car. The last train I went on was horrid. It was freezing cold, and stopped every few minutes. There was a change and I had to wait in an icy cold station, all doors wide open, for a bus replacement service. And it cost a fortune.

Back on topic, it seems to me that although the girl and driver might have been technically right, they showed a lack of manners and respect. And I think some of the comments earlier on reflect the fact that there is a general resentment against a certain class of person, characterised as young, unemployed, not wanting to work, with one or more children, and a sense that they are entitled to a work free life style. That probably works against young decent people who happen to have a child, such as a colleague and his wife.

Psychaley

split_second wrote: »

round here they just say 'no room' and shut the doors

:rotfl:On my bus routes they continue to let prams on until they're lined up in the aisle and no one can get off the bus.
Our buses also have a pole in the middle of the pram/disability spaces which makes it difficult for anyone to actually get their pram/wheelchair/scooter into them....especially the huge 4x4 things people are pushing around thesedays.

I gave up with buses a while ago (mainly because I'm no longer quick enough to hurdle/climb over prams and seats) and now use the train which have tons of room in the front and end carriages, (and usually the conductors are less grumpy and it's cheaper)

As for the original post: Yes it was a pram space, there's no where else for prams to go and generally there are seats with extra leg room behind the pram spaces for the elderly/infirm. I would say that the woman and driver did sound rude, it never hurts to be polite!

QuackQuack_2

Dave_C wrote: »

Surely us older people on the bus have as just as much right to be on the bus as you?

Yes, just the same right - no more, no less, no right to special seats - particularly if you are travelling for free. If you have that much of a problem with public transport (and the speed they move at/distance they can cover when something 'free' is on offer tends to be at odds with it) then use dial-a-ride. It's what it's for!

Dave_C wrote: »

Or are you suggesting that we are somehow second-class citizens?

In my experience, old people are the biggest PITA to public transport known to man. So in my view, yes - some of them are and should be treated as such. Respect is something you earn, not something you demand by tutting, moaning and or prodding people with walking sticks.

Dave_C wrote: »

May I suggest that you print this off and put it in an envelope marked "only to be opened when I retire". That way you can see how worldly-wise you were when you were young.

Will do. I'll put a note on it "if I ever act like the majority of old people did when I was young, take me straight to Dignitas"