Prams on buses

Doom_and_Gloom

jojo1964 wrote: »

Then the bus would have stayed put until the situation was resolved, the problem where i work is that two companies have different rules, ours is one unfolded buggy or wheelchair per bus (or two on the adapted ones) the other company allow as many as they can get on, and as you have seen yourself, when that happens it makes life very hard for other passengers.

On another note, i had to laugh yesterday when a woman insisted i allow her on with her pushbike, as she had a puncture and couldnt be expected to walk the bike home, she got very agitated when i explained we were not equipped to carry bikes. No doubt an email has already winged its way to HQ complaining about my unhelpful manner.

That is the thing though the rules of the bus were ignored by this woman. She should not have got on as it was obvious to everyone that there was no room for her.

"In particular, you must not

• Obstruct any emergency exits, the vehicle entrance next to the driver, gangways or other locations on the bus in any way that would inhibit safety"

"During travel, buggies, prams, pushchairs, wheelchairs and scooters must be securely positioned so that they are stable and do not cause an obstruction or hazard to other customers."

Her pram was blocking the gangway and was a hazard to other customers. This was the problem. The woman got on the bus even though the driver stated there was no room, refused to get off once she had forced her way on and caused major problems. The bus by this time was running late and a different numbered bus needed to stop where it was so the driver went. The woman got off at the next stop anyway which was certainly a walkable distance for her, she was just too bloody lazy. You can guess what kind of a person she was.

jojo1964

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

That is the thing though the rules of the bus were ignored by this woman. She should not have got on as it was obvious to everyone that there was no room for her.

"In particular, you must not

• Obstruct any emergency exits, the vehicle entrance next to the driver, gangways or other locations on the bus in any way that would inhibit safety"

"During travel, buggies, prams, pushchairs, wheelchairs and scooters must be securely positioned so that they are stable and do not cause an obstruction or hazard to other customers."

Her pram was blocking the gangway and was a hazard to other customers. This was the problem. The woman got on the bus even though the driver stated there was no room, refused to get off once she had forced her way on and caused major problems. The bus by this time was running late and a different numbered bus needed to stop where it was so the driver went. The woman got off at the next stop anyway which was certainly a walkable distance for her, she was just too bloody lazy. You can guess what kind of a person she was.

The driver was in the wrong then, she has done it once, and will do it again, no doubt, running late is no excuse for failing to adhere to the rules, be they safety inspired,or simply company rules.

QuackQuack_2

It crossed my mind that if the old lady was fit enough to walk to a bus stop, she could have easily moved. It also crossed my mind that the old lady is probably travelling for free on a free OAP bus pass, whereas the young mum probably had to pay.

In my experience as a daily user of public transport old people are the utter bain of life to bus users and drivers. Seriously they think the world owes them - but granted the woman was rude. I wonder how this would have panned out if a wheelchair user got on the bus and forced the old dear to move? I suspect in that case she would be seen as rude for sitting their in the first place.

biscit

QuackQuack wrote: »

It crossed my mind that if the old lady was fit enough to walk to a bus stop, she could have easily moved. It also crossed my mind that the old lady is probably travelling for free on a free OAP bus pass, whereas the young mum probably had to pay.

In my experience as a daily user of public transport old people are the utter bain of life to bus users and drivers. Seriously they think the world owes them - but granted the woman was rude. I wonder how this would have panned out if a wheelchair user got on the bus and forced the old dear to move? I suspect in that case she would be seen as rude for sitting their in the first place.

It was slightly different in my youth when a lot of old people had suffered WWII. We were told extra respect was due for that, on top of the general background respect all humans deserve until they show otherwise.

mumps

biscit wrote: »

It was slightly different in my youth when a lot of old people had suffered WWII. We were told extra respect was due for that, on top of the general background respect all humans deserve until they show otherwise.

Alot of old people now have suffered WWII, it ended 66 years ago so all those people in late 60s or 70s went through it but wouldn't have been fighting. My MIL, who died recently, was an ARP warden so did her bit. Still didn't help get her a seat on a bus in our brave new world.

mumps

QuackQuack wrote: »

It crossed my mind that if the old lady was fit enough to walk to a bus stop, she could have easily moved. It also crossed my mind that the old lady is probably travelling for free on a free OAP bus pass, whereas the young mum probably had to pay.

In my experience as a daily user of public transport old people are the utter bain of life to bus users and drivers. Seriously they think the world owes them - but granted the woman was rude. I wonder how this would have panned out if a wheelchair user got on the bus and forced the old dear to move? I suspect in that case she would be seen as rude for sitting their in the first place.

Can't comment for others but for my MIL who suffered from this problem she struggled to walk to the bus but moving about on a moving bus was beyond her. She didn't have a problem with wheelchair users, they sat in their wheelchairs but moms with buggies would demand she move so they could sit in the seat by the buggy space, at least that is how she described it to me.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

mumps wrote: »

Alot of old people now have suffered WWII, it ended 66 years ago so all those people in late 60s or 70s went through it but wouldn't have been fighting. My MIL, who died recently, was an ARP warden so did her bit. Still didn't help get her a seat on a bus in our brave new world.

And a lot of them now would have been the young adults of the 1960s and 70s who didn't give a stuff about the generation before them, to the extent of hoping they died before they got like them.

Why should someone expect or even demand a seat when their main contribution to the world was dodgy hairstyles, cheap, meaningless sex with the facility for contraception, and stupidly short skirts? They weren't all peace campaigners and visionaries and for some of them, the nearest they got to fighting in a war was waving around butterfly knives on Madeira Drive of a Bank Holiday weekend.

If someone genuinely needs a seat, then they should get one, but to say that having a DoB ending in .46 doesn't entitle them to preferential treatment above someone who hasn't.

WhiteRoses_2

Hey all I am a newbie to the site! I feel it is a real shame we are all left stressed out by incidents we are involved in or witness while using our public transport. I can not afford a car, so I HAVE to use the buses and trains frequently.
I have had to travel on buses and trains, ran by the same well known european firm for many years. I have had MANY negative experiences:

Seen blood on the back of a train seat and across the underside of the window.
Stale urine smell on trains and buses is frequent.
General bad smell on buses and trains, with dirty seating.
School children screaming and swearing, and allowed to.
Drunks.
A man using drugs.
A man about 70 coughing sputum into a pot.:eek:
A woman sitting in front of me scratching the scabs in her scalp then flicking them. lol (I moved seat)
Nose picking and bu* scratching.
Hit in the arm with a mans gym bag (it hurt)
Hit on the head by someones elbow lol.
more?........This is just getting to work and Uni. Nice to meet you all:D :beer:

Dave_C_2

QuackQuack wrote: »

It crossed my mind that if the old lady was fit enough to walk to a bus stop, she could have easily moved. It also crossed my mind that the old lady is probably travelling for free on a free OAP bus pass, whereas the young mum probably had to pay.

In my experience as a daily user of public transport old people are the utter bane of life to bus users and drivers. Seriously they think the world owes them - but granted the woman was rude.

Surely us older people on the bus have as just as much right to be on the bus as you? Or are you suggesting that we are somehow second-class citizens?

May I suggest that you print this off and put it in an envelope marked "only to be opened when I retire". That way you can see how worldly-wise you were when you were young.

Dave

Abbafan1972

Dave_C wrote: »

Surely us older people on the bus have as just as much right to be on the bus as you? Or are you suggesting that we are somehow second-class citizens?

May I suggest that you print this off and put it in an envelope marked "only to be opened when I retire". That way you can see how worldly-wise you were when you were young.

Dave

Well in my experience, today's senior citizens demand respect from us young uns' and complain about us, yet they are usually the 1st ones to push in the bus/supermarket queue whatever and moan if we have the bare faced cheek to even think about going into the post office on pension day! :eek: