rant..moan..school..bullying.

Sambucus_Nigra

fedupnow wrote: »

But that's okay, because we're only worrying about our own, right?

Well, that's genetics for you.

Plans_all_plans

No, because at the end of the day I was being assured "measures were in place to deal with bad behaviour of this type" but it still happened. I certainly didn't want my daughter marked out as someone who would let others hit her, so I told her to hit back. If you let this sort of thing go on for too long, while "waiting for the school to deal with it" then others will mark her out as an easy target and start up too. Far easier to nip it in the bud. There's no way I'm going to let my child be assaulted in school and if teacher intervention doesn't work in the first few instances, I'm not going to wait for them to come up with new strategies!

moomoomama27

Plans_all_plans wrote: »

No, because at the end of the day I was being assured "measures were in place to deal with bad behaviour of this type" but it still happened. I certainly didn't want my daughter marked out as someone who would let others hit her, so I told her to hit back. If you let this sort of thing go on for too long, while "waiting for the school to deal with it" then others will mark her out as an easy target and start up too. Far easier to nip it in the bud. There's no way I'm going to let my child be assaulted in school and if teacher intervention doesn't work in the first few instances, I'm not going to wait for them to come up with new strategies!

Did you raise it with the head, school governors? It sounds like they aren't enforcing the anti bullying techniques ot taking it seriously.

thistledome

No wonder we're bringing up generations of soft and fat weaklings with the attitude of some parents on here. "If someone hits you, just stand there and take it. Then go and tell a teacher (who won't give a t@ss)". Classic.

You bring up your kids how you want, fedupnow - but don't lecture to others who are following tried and tested common sense methods that have worked for as long as school bullies have been around.

Lotus eater, you don't need to justify yourself to the hand wringers.

fedupnow

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Well, that's genetics for you.

It's incredibly sad is what it is.

thistledome

fedupnow wrote: »

It's incredibly sad is what it is.

Self-defence is sad?

Teaching your kids to be a punchbag is even sadder IMO.

FATBALLZ

Plans_all_plans wrote: »

You have to stand up for yourself: that's a life lesson and it should be learned early.

Yep, it would be great if all of lifes problems could be resolved by escalating issues to ever higher levels of management but that isn't the real world. People who don't learn to stand up for themselves get crapped all over at school and then get crapped all over in the workplace.

If teachers can resolve an issue quickly then I'm all for that, but the majority of them don't care about bullying, and are ineffective at dealing with it. Arsing about complaining to governors who don't want to hear about it is a waste of time, time in which the child is still suffering. Teaching the child to stand up for itself resolves the immediate issue and (if done properly) teaches them a valuable skill that will benefit them for the rest of their lives.

fedupnow

thistledome wrote: »

No wonder we're bringing up generations of soft and fat weaklings with the attitude of some parents on here. "If someone hits you, just stand there and take it. Then go and tell a teacher (who won't give a t@ss)". Classic.

You bring up your kids how you want, fedupnow - but don't lecture to others who are following tried and tested common sense methods that have worked for as long as school bullies have been around.

Lotus eater, you don't need to justify yourself to the hand wringers.

Oh dear.

The point is ---- The teacher should give a toss. That's their job. It's what they are paid to do. If s/he is failing to do it then tackle them about it. Don't just give up and send the kids out to battle it between themselves.

There are lots of problems that have been around for years - doesn't mean we shouldn't try and solve them, does it?

Plans_all_plans

It was a preschool/nursey the year before starting Reception. She was there for a year. I wasn't going to faff about with governors when the advice "hit back" worked from the off. If that hadn't worked then I expect I'd have taken it further.

moomoomama27

thistledome wrote: »

Self-defence is sad?

Teaching your kids to be a punchbag is even sadder IMO.

We should be teaching our children how to handle situations, violence is not the answer longterm. It has no place in a school.

I think if a child needs to use violence to defend themselves in a school then that school is failing, the communication between parent/teacher/head is failing. It's giving the wrong message to the child.