rant..moan..school..bullying.

fedupnow

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Nobody has said it is ok to fight or hit people. It's just been you that have misunderstood the intentions of parents who teach their kids how to respond if it happens. It's SELF-DEFENCE not AGRESSION. You really need to understand the difference.

Okay, I disagree with a parent telling their child to 'self defend' themselves by thumping the bully. I think the parent should get to the school and insist the teacher does their job and put a stop to it.

fedupnow

Dave101t wrote: »

as a male i can say that violence does solve these problems and hitting the biggest bully hardest always works.
thats why bullies exist of course...because namby pambies are told to 'walk away' or 'ask them why they are hitting you'.

They ya go. If you've been bullied you must be a namby pamby.

Lotus-eater

fedupnow wrote: »

Okay, I disagree with a parent telling their child to 'self defend' themselves by thumping the bully. I think the parent should get to the school and insist the teacher does their job and put a stop to it.

In a perfect nirvana I'd agree with you, but the schoolground is the same place mostly that it was 100, 150 years ago and bullies have been around since man stood upright, probably even longer.

As I said, you tell your kids your way and pray they don't get picked on. The rest of us will look after our kids.

Dave101t

i meant they tell you, not that you are, my mistake, but the message still stands.
accept bullying now and be bullied all through your life.
however you get out of it, hitting back, telling teachers (ha!), befriending the bully, just get out of it.

Lotus-eater

fedupnow wrote: »

They ya go. If you've been bullied you must be a namby pamby.

No ones said that apart from you, you're putting words in peoples mouths.
And you're being offensive.

Sambucus_Nigra

fedupnow wrote: »

Okay, I disagree with a parent telling their child to 'self defend' themselves by thumping the bully. I think the parent should get to the school and insist the teacher does their job and put a stop to it.

Ok - now I can officially put my head in my hands and cry.

So your kid gets thumped, you go to the teacher and ask them to do their job. So they teach them better maths, or a poem [that is their job, after all]. Or perhaps get them to do a collage with pasta.

There, solved.

Sambucus_Nigra

p.s....all the martial arts are based around defence not attack. There is a reason for this.

fedupnow

Lotus-eater wrote: »

No ones said that apart from you, you're putting words in peoples mouths.
And you're being offensive.

He's rephrased it now. You said way back on the first page that a kid 'just needed to show a bit of back bone'.

And if I do have a child that's picked on - it wouldn't be my fault for not teaching him how to fight, or my kid's fault. It is never the bullies' target's fault.

We can surely agree on that one little thing.

fedupnow

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Ok - now I can officially put my head in my hands and cry.

So your kid gets thumped, you go to the teacher and ask them to do their job. So they teach them better maths, or a poem [that is their job, after all]. Or perhaps get them to do a collage with pasta.

There, solved.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Lotus-eater

fedupnow wrote: »

He's rephrased it now. You said way back on the first page that a kid 'just needed to show a bit of back bone'.

And if I do have a child that's picked on - it wouldn't be my fault for not teaching him how to fight, or my kid's fault. It is never the bullies' target's fault.

We can surely agree on that one little thing.

That's right, they need to show some backbone to the bully, if they turn over and lie down, it will get worse. It can be a verbal insult if they received one, or if they get punched, a punch back.

It's never the bullies targets fault, but there is a reason they are a target, sometimes because you are small and sometimes because you are big and sometimes because they just think they can get away with it.
Of course you never blame a kid for it, my DD was targeted because she wears glasses, she was called names, she got upset, so I told her to call names back and say the other clever things you are supposed to when you have glasses, it didn't work. She told the teachers, they tried, but they can't be everywhere at once, it progressed on to physical violence when the main boy hit her, you know the rest.

The child has to show they aren't a target and that they won't put up with it and I think, that they won't go running to the teacher the first time they need some backup. That's what I mean by backbone, they need to stand up for themselves.