Do the council still give those voucher things for decorating when you move in?

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

No. I think that ANY tenant should expect a home they are renting to be of a reasonable decorative standard as a minimum. HA/LA decoration vouchers are only given if/when they can be justified.

have you ever been into a student house?

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

However, if you rent social housing. It seems to be viewed by some that you should crawl backwards in gratitude over hot coals just because the roof is still on.

It's housing snobbery at its very worst, voiced from a position of sheer ignorance.

have you ever heard of the expression "beggars can't be choosers"? like it or not if you rely on the state for a house you can't really expect the same standards as a private house.

i've worked most of my life, but i was made redundant last month, so i can see your viewpoint. i bet you've hardly worked in your life?

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

have you ever been into a student house?

I have, and I would like to see ALL rented accommodation brought up to a minimum standard. Is THAT such a bad thing?

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

have you ever heard of the expression "beggars can't be choosers"? like it or not if you rely on the state for a house you can't really expect the same standards as a private house.

i've worked most of my life, but i was made redundant last month, so i can see your viewpoint. i bet you've hardly worked in your life?

Why shouldn't you expect the same standards? Of course, you are missing the point slightly because if the standards were the same in all cases, there would be no need for decorating vouchers. You can't have your cake AND eat it.

My personal circumstances are of no relevance to this discussion. Please try and focus on the bigger picture.

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Why shouldn't you expect the same standards? Of course, you are missing the point slightly because if the standards were the same in all cases, there would be no need for decorating vouchers. You can't have your cake AND eat it.

My personal circumstances are of no relevance to this discussion. Please try and focus on the bigger picture.

it's not really natural justice to have chavs in council houses that are better decorated than houses paid for by people that work/ contribute to society. it's also not an incentive for people to better themselves if they get "free" stuff from the taxpayer.

only someone that's never worked would take your opinion.

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

it's not really natural justice to have chavs in council houses that are better decorated than houses paid for by people that work/ contribute to society. it's also not an incentive for people to better themselves if they get "free" stuff from the taxpayer.

only someone that's never worked would take your opinion.

Then perhaps standards in the private rented sector should be improved to meet a basic minimum standard of decoration? Of course, then you would have to employ decorators rather than just giving the tenant the means to buy paint. And I know which is more cost effective. But if, in these difficult times, you feel that spending more public money is the answer, then perhaps I should just bow to your greater wisdom. (Where,s the sarcasm button when you need it?).

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Then perhaps standards in the private rented sector should be improved to meet a basic minimum standard of decoration? Of course, then you would have to employ decorators rather than just giving the tenant the means to buy paint. And I know which is more cost effective. But if, in these difficult times, you feel that spending more public money is the answer, then perhaps I should just bow to your greater wisdom. (Where,s the sarcasm button when you need it?).

it's still not natural justice to have chavs in decent houses. i think if you can work but choose not to you should be thrown out your house.

no, you misunderstand my viewpoint. i wouldn't give council house tenants vouchers or a free painting service. as i said before "beggars can't be choosers".

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

it's still not natural justice to have chavs in decent houses. i think if you can work but choose not to you should be thrown out your house.

no, you misunderstand my viewpoint. i wouldn't give council house tenants vouchers or a free painting service. as i said before "beggars can't be choosers".

We live in a wealthy, developed country. Shouldn't EVERYONE live in decent housing? Legislation would seen to support that viewpoint.
Fortunately, your ill considered thoughts don't fall into the catagory that we call "Living in a civilised society". As such, they aren't really relevant.

Of course, there's nothing stopping you from applying for social housing.

shellsuit

We moved into a HA house last year where there was a decorating grant available.

The grant was in a form of vouchers for specific shops, or you could choose to have the same amount applied to your rent account.

We opted for the amount to be applied to the rent account, which meant that we were then free to shop around for the best deals on the paint and paper etc.

The decor was minging and filthy when we took the house on, but with some hard graft and some very kind relatives, we got the whole place stripped, papered and painted in 5 days, ready for moving into.

You don't get the vouchers for all properties here. Just the one's which need decorating badly. Suppose it's cheaper to give a tenant £300 in vouchers to decorate a house (or have it paid to the rent account), than pay for contractors to come in and do the same.

BrettMorganxD

darkpool wrote: »

it's still not natural justice to have chavs in decent houses. i think if you can work but choose not to you should be thrown out your house.

no, you misunderstand my viewpoint. i wouldn't give council house tenants vouchers or a free painting service. as i said before "beggars can't be choosers".

You seem to have the wrong impression....

I work full-time and am not a chav relying on the state. I am just applying for a council property because I need to move down beeston (an hour away from my home now).

The council used to give vouchers whether you worked or not, it was irrelevant.