Do the council still give those voucher things for decorating when you move in?

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Well, people like you will only be happy when social housing tenants have to provide their own roof tiles and shlt a bucket. Muppet.

do you not read the newspapers or watch the news? it might have escaped you, but the country is in a bit of an economic mess. council tenants get flats at below market rates already, you really think they deserve free decorating stuff from the council as well?

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

do you not read the newspapers or watch the news? it might have escaped you, but the country is in a bit of an economic mess. council tenants get flats at below market rates already, you really think they deserve free decorating stuff from the council as well?

Do you not read at all. I clearly stated that it wasn't free, in the same way that poor decoration isn't free in any other tenure. Do catch up, there a good chap.

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Do you not read at all. I clearly stated that it wasn't free, in the same way that poor decoration isn't free in any other tenure. Do catch up, there a good chap.

i don't really understand what you mean, you have to pay extra for poor decoration in the private sector?

if the tenant isn't happy with the state of decoration he shouldn't rent the house. simple as that.

theres plenty of demand for council housing, if someone sticks their nose up at the decoration it's their loss.

it seems to me that the !!!!less and workshy get benefits and perks thrown at them. i've no problem with council houses for the deserving poor, but to give vouchers to chavs/ druggies etc to decorate their houses is ridiculous.

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

i don't really understand what you mean, you have to pay extra for poor decoration in the private sector?

if the tenant isn't happy with the state of decoration he shouldn't rent the house. simple as that.

theres plenty of demand for council housing, if someone sticks their nose up at the decoration it's their loss.

it seems to me that the !!!!less and workshy get benefits and perks thrown at them. i've no problem with council houses for the deserving poor, but to give vouchers to chavs/ druggies etc to decorate their houses is ridiculous.

First little bit of news for you. Working people live in social housing too. Bit of a shock to your pre-judgemental system, I know, but it's true.

And now, for the bit you are struggling to understand. Decoration vouchers are issued on the assumption that they will be used to make good any decorative shortfall in the property. They are far cheaper than employing a tradesman and are taken into account when the exit inspection is carried out.

If you need any more clarification on what is, in reality, a very simple concept to grasp, please just let me know.

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

First little bit of news for you. Working people live in social housing too. Bit of a shock to your pre-judgemental system, I know, but it's true.

And now, for the bit you are struggling to understand. Decoration vouchers are issued on the assumption that they will be used to make good any decorative shortfall in the property. They are far cheaper than employing a tradesman and are taken into account when the exit inspection is carried out.

If you need any more clarification on what is, in reality, a very simple concept to grasp, please just let me know.

ehhhmmm yes, i know working people also stay in council houses. some of my family stayed in council houses.

most people moving into a new house (buy or private rent) would just accept that some of the decoration isn't brilliant. generally they would either live with it or get the paint themselves. why should council house tenants be different?

i still don't know what you mean by "poor decoration isn't free in any other tenure". could you clarify that?

could you also clarify you know that there is a debt crisis in the western world? no need for an essay, just a yes or a no.

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

ehhhmmm yes, i know working people also stay in council houses. some of my family stayed in council houses.

most people moving into a new house (buy or private rent) would just accept that some of the decoration isn't brilliant. generally they would either live with it or get the paint themselves. why should council house tenants be different?

i still don't know what you mean by "poor decoration isn't free in any other tenure". could you clarify that?

could you also clarify you know that there is a debt crisis in the western world? no need for an essay, just a yes or a no.

"Poor decoration isn't free in any tenure"?

If you rent privately, a poorly decorated property would have you either walking away (more void cost for LL) or expecting some discount/cash towards decorating (more cash cost for LL).

If you are buying, you would expect to pay less (cash loss to seller) for the same property in a worse decorative state.

Seems simple enough to me. Which bit confused you?

darkpool

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

"Poor decoration isn't free in any tenure"?

If you rent privately, a poorly decorated property would have you either walking away (more void cost for LL) or expecting some discount/cash towards decorating (more cash cost for LL).

If you are buying, you would expect to pay less (cash loss to seller) for the same property in a worse decorative state.

Seems simple enough to me. Which bit confused you?

tbh, the bit that really confuses me is how some council house tenants just expect vouchers when they move into a house. a lot of people in the UK are struggling, they have to put up their houses needing redecorated.

i'd say redecorating is more a luxury than a right. can you see where i'm coming from?

Wee_Willy_Harris

darkpool wrote: »

tbh, the bit that really confuses me is how some council house tenants just expect vouchers when they move into a house. a lot of people in the UK are struggling, they have to put up their houses needing redecorated.

i'd say redecorating is more a luxury than a right. can you see where i'm coming from?

No. I think that ANY tenant should expect a home they are renting to be of a reasonable decorative standard as a minimum. HA/LA decoration vouchers are only given if/when they can be justified.

BrettMorganxD

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

No. I think that ANY tenant should expect a home they are renting to be of a reasonable decorative standard as a minimum. HA/LA decoration vouchers are only given if/when they can be justified.

It is amazing how a perfectly reasonable question can cause so much fuss isn't it?

Wee_Willy_Harris

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

It is amazing how a perfectly reasonable question can cause so much fuss isn't it?

And how.

These boards are full of people who have bought a new house and complain at the finish on the skirting boards. Or the private tenant unhappy about damp discolouration. And for those, the advice pours forth ( and righty so).

However, if you rent social housing, it seems to be viewed by some that you should crawl backwards in gratitude over hot coals just because the roof is still on.

Social housing should be viewed as the minimum standard by which all others are judged. But, hey, tenants are second class citizens to some, and social housing tenants are at the bottom of that pile.

It's housing snobbery at its very worst, voiced from a position of sheer ignorance.