My situation .. What can I do?

crazy_gooner

Thanks guys!

Been doing some more research. Apparently since april it has been reduced to 12% instead of 15% for one child, anyone experienced this? Cases since april obviously, as older cases will take time to transfer.

Also when my partner gives birth and it goes to 16% for 2 children, will that mean they split it? I.E 8% each?

Thanks!

DUTR

crazy_gooner wrote: »

Thanks guys!

Been doing some more research. Apparently since april it has been reduced to 12% instead of 15% for one child, anyone experienced this? Cases since april obviously, as older cases will take time to transfer.

Also when my partner gives birth and it goes to 16% for 2 children, will that mean they split it? I.E 8% each?

Thanks!

Heh heh , don't get foxed by the figures, CSA 2 is indeed 15% net, but the CMEC (CSA3) you refer to is 12% GROSS , so if you do some maths
eg £20k gross = about £13700 net

CSA 3 £20k*12% = £46 per week
CSA2 £13.7K*15% = £40 per week

the CSA round the figures to the nearest £1 , and then the question of the tax and NI on the CSA3 figure it is not clear who pays that, as if it is the NRP, they are paying TAX and NI on the monies TWICE :eek:

crazy_gooner

is that definitely the case? if so the nrp is worse off.


A general question. in some countries you can sign away your parental rights, can you do that in Britain? ive always wondered ti be honest!

the new.form of csa made me happy until then! haha

also. if they dont have addrless or national insurance number plus even possibly date of birth.how can they find you? as many people may have your name. would they pursue as they have so.many clear cut cases.

another question I've wondered before this situation.

thanks"

DUTR

crazy_gooner wrote: »

is that definitely the case? if so the nrp is worse off.


A general question. in some countries you can sign away your parental rights, can you do that in Britain? ive always wondered ti be honest!

the new.form of csa made me happy until then! haha

also. if they dont have addrless or national insurance number plus even possibly date of birth.how can they find you? as many people may have your name. would they pursue as they have so.many clear cut cases.

another question I've wondered before this situation.

thanks"

Yes you can sign away your parental rights (if you get them in the 1st place), but you cannot sign away your parental responsibilities, that is to put money on the table.

There are no easy ways to avoid once a case is open, even death won't relinquish an NRP of their responsibilities.

Perhaps the only way you are 'safe' is if you are an illegal entrant

fannyanna

DUTR wrote: »

and then the question of the tax and NI on the CSA3 figure it is not clear who pays that, as if it is the NRP, they are paying TAX and NI on the monies TWICE :eek:

Silly question - but can you explain this bit to me.

As an NRPP I'm very interested in this new system and its adverse effect.

crazy_gooner

haha. Basically I learnt about this because my mrs's friend came around last night and has just finished studying law over the last 5 years. Family law and legal sides etc.

She seems to believe I will be better off, and she was better off before on csa2 when her and her husband split and the kids were involved.

PreludeForTimeFeelers

crazy_gooner wrote: »

Thanks guys!

Been doing some more research. Apparently since april it has been reduced to 12% instead of 15% for one child, anyone experienced this? Cases since april obviously, as older cases will take time to transfer.

Also when my partner gives birth and it goes to 16% for 2 children, will that mean they split it? I.E 8% each?

Thanks!

These are the figures for the new gross income scheme, scheduled to start in autumn.

When your partner gives birth then the calculation would be done on a lower amount of your income, the Csa would essentially give you a 15% allowance for the child in your household.

Regarding trace tools, the more info the Csa get from a PWC, the better, the minimum they need is name and rough age. They have access to Govt. databases so from that they can narrow down people of the same name to where they live/lived - this is also where they get national insurance numbers from. Once they have someone's NI number they can find out where they're working from HMRC.

DUTR

fannyanna wrote: »

Silly question - but can you explain this bit to me.

As an NRPP I'm very interested in this new system and its adverse effect.

All I understand about it , is that the monies are taken from the gross salary, so for example pension contributions are not waived .
So from the example earlier, the NRP would pay £46 per week vs £41 on the current system (more than 10% increase) , anyways
the CMEC deduct £46, now then the NRP has to pay TAX NI pension from their salary, so how is the £46 deducted? If it is deducted from the net pay then stoppages have to be already deducted before it becomes net pay, so hence stoppages are paid twice on the monies, if stoppages are not deducted, then once it reaches the PWC then it should be subject to stoppages, otherwise people can violate their tax liability through the CMEC system.

Perhaps someone with a fuller understanding can clarify, as t is not the 1st time it has been mentioned , and to be honest it seems to back up a comment in another thread, NRP pays out more =so what, PWC recieves less = everybody rallies round

[Deleted User]

I feel sorry for this poor little boy! He didn't ask to be born and how people can turn their back on their own flesh and blood is beyond me! How would you feel if your Father didnt want anything to do with you? Do you realise how damaging it is to children to know they wasnt wanted! Having said that you are already having another child with someone you haven't even been with a Year! You don't strike me as a very responsible person and probably soon will have 2 CSA cases!

Sorry know it sounds harsh but you need a reality check, that child needs practical support not just financial! Bite the bullet get your own DNA test so this isn't hanging over you and proceed from there.

DUTR

Deleted_User wrote: »

I feel sorry for this poor little boy! He didn't ask to be born and how people can turn their back on their own flesh and blood is beyond me! How would you feel if your Father didnt want anything to do with you? Do you realise how damaging it is to children to know they wasnt wanted! Having said that you are already having another child with someone you haven't even been with a Year! You don't strike me as a very responsible person and probably soon will have 2 CSA cases!

Sorry know it sounds harsh but you need a reality check, that child needs practical support not just financial! Bite the bullet get your own DNA test so this isn't hanging over you and proceed from there.

Whilst I agree , people have different reasons as to why they are to be no longer in someone's life, but as it is early days, things could change and the OP may have contact and a fullfilling child/father relationship in the long run, so it is too early to judge him on that score