OS Friday 12th JANUARY

anniebooklover

Bargain_Rzl wrote:

I suppose you could argue for NOT funding special education for gifted children on the basis that those children will be likely to seek out their own learning/improvement in later life... :think:

Bargain you assume that schools actually make provisions for gifted children :shhh: The state-sponsored education system (IMHO) is geared to educate every child to a certain level. If they are already above that level, well................... extra tuition? private education? scholarships for private education? I don't give you answers Bargain, just the situation as I see it - though I do see your point. As a parent, I see it as my job to continually encourage (not push) my children to achieve their goals.

Forgive me for pointing out that Alan Sugar, Richard Branson and Duncan Bannatyne became multi-millionaires despite a lack of qualifications - success will out regardless of the level of education. You may say they are few and far between but there are plenty more who had a top-notch education (the royal family for example) but have very little in the way of actual qualifications - the old-boys-club still prevails for the privileged.

Education will never be equal for all IMHO, Bargain. That's why I believe parents play a bigger part than the government or many schools would give them credit for. My children will at least try to achieve because they believe they should aim as high as they can - I love them for that (and everything else about them of course) and I have every faith that they will achieve their best. Sorry, again, over-bearing parent in the room!!! heading off to a corner to chastise myself.

Horasio

Roz_V wrote:

adding: CCStar, although I agree with your sentiment, the girl in question made the remarks after an arguement between the two. She has admitted to her HOY and headmaster what she said, and is, I believe, to receive counselling. It seems that although the dispute had been going on for a while, it was mainly out of school, and therefore not much the school could do, particularly as the girl never asked for help or mentioned to anyone what was happening.

I don't want to stick up for the girl in question, however she, a 14YO herself, is going to have to live with everyone in the local community calling her a *murderer* (as one or two kids have already said to her).

Two subjects have arisen on this thread today.

Bullying and bad neighbours who play music loud at night when people need to sleep - both vile and both make me feel very angry.

Sorry, but I don't sympathise with bullies, yes they need help, as they are probably bullied themselves but she needs to live with the consequences and this should be a wakeup call as to how serious bullying is.

It thrives on being secretive, I know, but a well trained teacher or HOY would see the signs. I bet it started at school too. Schools are too interested in league tables and less interested in quality of life of pupils IMO.

Horasio

Roz_V wrote:

adding: CCStar, although I agree with your sentiment, the girl in question made the remarks after an arguement between the two. She has admitted to her HOY and headmaster what she said, and is, I believe, to receive counselling. It seems that although the dispute had been going on for a while, it was mainly out of school, and therefore not much the school could do, particularly as the girl never asked for help or mentioned to anyone what was happening.

I don't want to stick up for the girl in question, however she, a 14YO herself, is going to have to live with everyone in the local community calling her a *murderer* (as one or two kids have already said to her).

EDIT: re. noise, we tried phoning the police at 4am one morning (101 - the Anti-social behaviour number, not 999) and were told they don't deal with noise complaints anymore :mad:

Enviro Health have been informed, but as they only work office hours, they will not come to hear the noise/disruption. Luckily we keep a log, and appear not to be the only ones to have complained

Keep going, ring the police, leave messages, get the neighbours to join you - get the idiot to turn his music down.

anniestar

Ros V only just read your post im SO sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your sister and the family of the poor girl. Look after yourself.(I did try to edit this onto my post of a few mins ago but it wouldn't let me! DOH! Computers & I- ALWAYS = win for the computer! Aussielass keep packing we are watching you, you know!!

Bargain_Rzl

anniebooklover wrote:

Bargain you assume that schools actually make provisions for gifted children :shhh:

I didn't make that assumption - I assumed that schools should make equal provisions for every standard of pupil to achieve their potential - not they do make that provision

dlb

I do agree with..
Schools are too interested in league tables
This is wrong but it happens, but that doesnt mean it should.It have found that it is higher members of staff(head ect) that are more bothered about this but of cause this means the teaching staff, ta`s ect have to try and meet there targets that head ect has set.

anniebooklover

AussieLass wrote:

Annie I had no idea that you didn't have to vote if you didn't want to. When we turn 18 we HAVE to vote in every election local/state/federal. If we don't there is a hefty fine. :rolleyes: I would anyway. I'd like to think my vote helped.

With comments about schooling. It's a the reverse here. If you do have a child that is gifted/talented there is so much to offer, but if they are struggling it's really up to the parents to bring them up to speed with tutouring. If not they are left behind. It's a shame a happy medium can't be reached.

Aussie I'm like you. I would vote regardless. Enough women suffered to get the vote for all of us and I would hate to have my right to vote taken away. I haven't missed an election yet (my local councillor will get the "evil eye" this time though cos he backed the council rather than his constituents when it came to local parking! :mad: I will vote for anyone except him and happily tell him to his face).

I have heard that Ozzie and NZ schools favour the gifted pupils. I understand they also have a completely different approach to the education system though. (Is it true that most schools have their own swimming pools to teach life-saving, etc?) I agree with you that there should be a happy medium but in our area at least, the parents don't seemed so concerned that their children can't subtract 6 from 10 without using their fingers at age 10. :mad:

moggins

Roz please send your little sister my hugs and tell her there are many people out here who care about her, show her this thread if needs be. And I hope the twerp with the music blows an eardrum!

Anniestar that is great news about your DH. Long may it continue.

Sorry that I have appeared to have started a huge debate on the educational system. It's so weird to me as I have DS with Aspergers and I knew I was always going to have to fight for him but I never ever dreamed that I would have to do the same for DD. I guess I was very blind and naive. I don't honestly think it's a problem with the school though as last year (reception) we warned her teacher and she was brilliant. She made sure that I warned her whenever DD was getting bored and she gave her harder things to work on. DD was only 5 in June and is reading my hardback Harry Potter books, I have to be careful what I read when she is around as she reads over my shoulder.

She also handles multiplication and division that her brother find difficult. She can argue her case like an adult and I think this is what is annoying her teacher as she is honestly like no other 5 year old I have ever know but she also has a very loving temperament, and I suppose she has been a little pampered and sheltered in some respects as she has never come across anyone she didn't get on with before.

So come Monday I have to attend two different school and find out what is going wrong in DD's class and then on to DS's school to find out why supply teachers are never told about his AS which leads them to giving him detentions for being "him"

dlb

Hey i use my fingers now!!! Maybe thats why im in debt!!! Sorry just trying to lighten the mood.And for the life of me can not do my 8 times table, we have the brain training game for the ds, its great if not enlightning!!!
LOL
This has been a great daily thread really enjoyed it.
I love to know what you all think on different matters

lil_me

First week of my oldest son being in his new class was hilarious, a little girl (2 years old in his class) came up and said to me that my son was really intelligent, I asked what made her say that, she said because he has corrected the teacher 3 times today :rotfl: He can't stand anything being less than perfect, even a small amount! I get corrected frequently. I also have to watch him with his reading over my shoulder, watches me type passwords then the little tikes on eBay :mad: :rotfl: