Parents with GIRLS URGENT !!

Person_one

I've had it, I had Gardasil which protects against more strains than Cervarix which I believe is what is given in schools, I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind giving Cervarix, but apparently it still protects against 70% of HPV infections.

I work in healthcare and my parents have always been sensible, as a result of these two factors I'm immunised to the hilt, I've had three jabs in the last two weeks actually! I've never had a reaction worse than a sore arm for 24 hours. Vaccine reactions are actually incredibly rare, far far far rarer than cervical cancer or genital warts (also caused by HPV).

There is no amount of being careful (or moral, if you're daft enough to view it that way) that can protect you 100% from HPV short of lifelong celibacy. Even the vaccine can't do that, it just really really improves your chances.

Please don't gamble your daughter's life based on a poor understanding of science and vague moral uneasiness. The best thing to do with the consent form is to sign it quickly and then take a second to appreciate just how lucky your daughter is that she is living at a time when she can benefit from this vaccine and be protected from a horrific, nightmarish disease.

DevilsAdvocate1

milliebear00001 wrote: »

But thalidomide is an example of a drug that wasn't tested vigorously enough. It is one of the main reasons that today, we have such high standards of testing!

Incidentally, thalidomide is a very useful drug in other ways and is still widely used under other names to treat a variety of conditions.

This isn't strictly true. When they changed the baby vaccines 6 years ago, my son should have been one of the first to have it. I asked how it had been tested and was told that it is unethical to test vaccines on babies and children. Instead, they roll it out under a yellow card system. If a side effect is noticed, this yellow card system should highlight it.

In my mind, this was using my baby as a guinea pig and I decided he would not have the vaccines. I tried to get the older vaccines that my other children had had, but it was not possible.

I would imagine that the cervical cancer jab is rolled out in the same way as who would agree to their child being involved in the thorough testing of the jab? Therefore, I don't think the testing is as rigorous as you think.

D.

Person_one

DevilsAdvocate1 wrote: »

This isn't strictly true. When they changed the baby vaccines 6 years ago, my son should have been one of the first to have it. I asked how it had been tested and was told that it is unethical to test vaccines on babies and children. Instead, they roll it out under a yellow card system. If a side effect is noticed, this yellow card system should highlight it.

In my mind, this was using my baby as a guinea pig and I decided he would not have the vaccines. I tried to get the older vaccines that my other children had had, but it was not possible.

I would imagine that the cervical cancer jab is rolled out in the same way as who would agree to their child being involved in the thorough testing of the jab? Therefore, I don't think the testing is as rigorous as you think.

D.

There will have been extensive testing on animals, then on adult human volunteers, 18,000 women in the case of Cervarix.

I understand your feelings, but somebody always has to be first or nothing would ever happen and nobody would ever benefit.

laurel7172

If it hadn't been free for my daughter, I would have paid for it.

Don't fall for the usual vaccine hysteria. The death had nothing to do with the vaccine. I remember it clearly, because my dd had her first injection the following day. Yes, I was stressed, as the cause of the poor girl's death hadn't been established at that time, but vaccines are tested, and they aren't handed out for fun.

We're extremely lucky in this country to be offered free protection against deadly diseases-which is what a vaccine is. Personally, as a high risk patient, I'm booked into the first clinic this year for the flu jab and I'm grateful for it.

BugglyB

I think its very sad that in some areas it has been equated with underage sex.

If it was a jab for young men which helps prevent testicular cancer I can't imagine the same 'moral dilemnas'.

bratz81

tbh I just don't understand why you wouldn't let her have it done.
I wish it had been around in my day - gosh I sound old and I'm only 29!!

jackyann

Haven't read all these posts, but in 2 pages I haven't seen the obvious piece of advice - which should also be in the leaflet:
DISCUSS WITH THE SCHOOL NURSE.
They are giving the vaccines, they have the information and can pass you on for a more detailed discussion with the Medical Officers if needed.
This is their field of expertise - use them!
99% of them are female, 50% of them are mothers, so 75% of them (approx.) will be mothers of girls, quite apart from being registered nurses (experience of nursing & preventing cancer) with post-graduate training.
Apologies if this has alrready been said.

January20

darlyd wrote: »

I am just very worried of long lasting side affects that I have read that has occurred in some kids..

Would she be safe If she always wore condoms until said man had tests, and to make sure she has regular smears, we will pay private from when she becomes active. Which is a long way off yet.

the virus is only caused by being sexually active? Even if it is with just one man, that man could of slept with hundreds of women, or their last partner could of slept with hundreds..

Scary world.. I am just so cautious, I feel it's not been around long enough to risk my DD health. We can do other measures to protect her from the virus.. as above.. surly?

How likely is it that your dd would not put her health at risk because of pressure from a boy/ man?

How likely is it that a man would have tests? Men do so much love having their private parts investigated don't they? :rotfl:

My dd had the injections. She had a very sore arm for a few days. If it saves her from cancer, it's a good thing.

Sarahdol75

I would definately recommend these jabs, especially since I lost my sister to cervical cancer at the age of 29, she had been suffering with it for a number of years and the doctors didnt find it until it was too late. I wish these were around when we were at school, the benefits far outweigh any negatives that people have mentioned on here, and the fact that you can't have a smear test until you are 25 is ridiculous, as there are many girls having unprotected sex at a very early age.

justmel

gotham_child wrote: »

girls have ended up wheelchair bound and others in comas from this jab are you people crazy??? stick em on the pill does the same and the minor side effects of not knowing when your gonna have a period are easier to deal with.

The pill certainly does not do the same thing! It offers absolutely no protection against any strain of the HPV virus or any other type of sexually transmitted infection for that matter.