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Parents with GIRLS URGENT !!

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  • Darlyd
    Darlyd Posts: 1,337 Forumite
    Thank You every one.

    I am going to sleep on it, and have a good chat with her tomorrow.
  • BKAT_9
    BKAT_9 Posts: 64 Forumite
    McKneff wrote: »
    In the 50s/60s we all thought that the NHS knew more about the drug Thalidomide than we did and look what happened there.

    If everyone did just a day in my industry they would realise that to link current practise to the case of Thalidomide is akin to carrying on smoking because doctors promoted it 'back in the day'.

    Thalidomide was an awful thing, that simply would not and could not happen now. The regulations and testing has moved on light years. There is so much distance between then and now that it is ludicrous to link the two.
  • I've had several borderline smears (quite common apparently) and been referred to hospital for early changes before and had a biopsy.

    i asked the consultant about getting vaccinated (was going to pay), was told it's too late now.

    I also said "if I always use a condom will I prevent myself ever getting HPV" and was told it can be transmitted through skin on skin contact as well (though condoms will help).

    She wasn't lecturing me... just being honest.

    If you're offered the vaccine for free why not take it? Yes, it may just help with a small proportion of cancers but I'd do it if I was young again or my daughter. I've had about 5 smears over as many years, been to hospital, and while I'm just re-assured "that at least you're being kept an eye on" I'd much rather not be doing it. Especially after one GP called me in the pub on Friday night to tell me to come back for a check-up once at a time when my mother was dying of cancer.

    I'm fine but paranoid and I'd leap at anything like that now.
  • BKAT_9
    BKAT_9 Posts: 64 Forumite
    meritaten wrote: »
    I think what you have to remember is that vaccinations once done cannot be 'undone'. If you are unsure then dont do it! Its not up to you to guard against your daughters sexual proclivities - you educate them about that. Then hope they are sensible - and if they are they didnt need this vaccination anyway!

    Ridiculous! She could get the virus from her husband!
  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    For a little more perspective on it the BBC did a program called "Is Oral Sex Safe" (i was spoken to about it and decided against doing the show), it's sensationalist but it's definately worth a look as it deals with HPV with regard to oropharyngeal cancers and how the HPV vaccine can help combat them.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
  • My 13 year old had them last year and was fine, nice to know she will get more protection than us at our age :)
  • Molly41
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    Absolutely my DD was in the catch up programme. Like all jabs there might be some side-effects. In DD and her class there was mass hysteria and fainting on the spot as is the psych of teenage girls ;) However she was fine 10 mins later and Im so relieved having myself suffered from CIN 3 on my cervix at the tender age of 22 and having to endure the worry and painful treatment x
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  • I'd encourage DD to have it. Cervical cancer is a horrible thing to have, and reducing the risk is not just hoping a girl will keep her legs crossed and pledge to remain a virgin until her wedding night.

    Partly because it's relying on a man/boy who hasn't even been met yet to have never done anything with anyone else on the offchance that he might meet someone fifteen years in the future,

    Partly because viruses don't care if you went to confession every Thusday or out on the pull.

    Partly because burying a daughter because she develops something as a result of a virus you didn't want her immunised against must be worse than losing her, as it's losing her with a degree of culpability in her suffering.

    Partly because it's protecting anyone else she goes with - or the innocent woman he sleeps with in the future.


    and sadly, partly because, even if she is a virgin, even if her boyfriend is a virgin and they haven't even held hands yet because they don't want to go too fast - there is no way of guaranteeing that she will never be the victim of rape, or that her husband could cheat on her in the future.
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  • anguk
    anguk Posts: 3,412 Forumite
    My DD had the vaccine at our doctors when she was 15/16, she was still at school at the time but they were only vaccinating younger girls so our GP was vaccinating the older girls. I would have happily paid for the vaccine, cervical cancer is a horrible disease so in my opinion the benefits far outweigh the risks.
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  • I'd encourage DD to have it. Cervical cancer is a horrible thing to have, and reducing the risk is not just hoping a girl will keep her legs crossed and pledge to remain a virgin until her wedding night.

    Partly because it's relying on a man/boy who hasn't even been met yet to have never done anything with anyone else on the offchance that he might meet someone fifteen years in the future,

    Partly because viruses don't care if you went to confession every Thusday or out on the pull.

    Partly because burying a daughter because she develops something as a result of a virus you didn't want her immunised against must be worse than losing her, as it's losing her with a degree of culpability in her suffering.

    Partly because it's protecting anyone else she goes with - or the innocent woman he sleeps with in the future.


    and sadly, partly because, even if she is a virgin, even if her boyfriend is a virgin and they haven't even held hands yet because they don't want to go too fast - there is no way of guaranteeing that she will never be the victim of rape, or that her husband could cheat on her in the future.

    My friend's lovely mum had cervical cancer - she had met her husband when they were both teenagers, and virgins... she had never slept with anyone else, and was about as virtuous as anyone could be...

    .. sadly, the same cannot be said about her husband, who apparently picked up the HPV via an affair in his thirties that his wife knew nothing about.
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