Parents with GIRLS URGENT !!

Darlyd

moomoomama27 wrote: »

This was a very difficult one for us to consider, we did alot of research on the subject, and decided not to go for the vaccine, my DD was informed of balanced research all the way through, and it was her decision also.

It's down to each family to decide. The school nurse tried to guilt trip us, and places we sought advice tried the opposite in scaring us not to have it. In the end we balanced it all and came to an informed decision.

Could you share the details you had please? Feel free to pm me if you feel more comfortable.

To me this is a life saving decision, could go either way.

MY Father just said to me, it was not around when we were younger, we as a family are all health cautious and it's been inherited to DD1. He does not think she should have it done. So that is one family member I have spoken too, I am sure my mum will agree with him.

foreign_correspondent

Look at the risks rationally - no one has died from the vaccine... but around 20 women a week die in the UK from cervical cancer... around 7% of them are under 35.

Realistically, any young woman is far, far more likely to die from cervical cancer than the jab...

Humphrey10

The vaccine is safe, cancer is not safe. Simples.

Saying 'make everyone you have sex with wear a condom' will not work - you seriously think a teenager will use a barrier method when performing oral sex?

Also, not all sex is planned, or carried out fully sober, nor is always fully consensual. It's a vaccine, it doesn't work once you are already infected. You can't go to the doctors and say 'oops, had 'an accident', need the vaccine now', it would be too late.

Gillyx

Of course it isn't 100% effective. Although I think you've already made your mind up. She could always have it later at the doctors if you change your mind, but by the time she is 15-ish it may be too late.

grey_lady

Personally - no, I wouldnt at this time put my daughter forward for the jab - to get a last minute consent form, i would pause, do some research - you don't 'have' to have it done tomorrow, your GP practise can do it at a future date if you look into it and decide you want it done.

All vaccines are about protecting the herd, the trials for vaccines are funded by drug companies and not treated in the same way that a trial for a new drug would be.

Personally I'm happy with most childhood vaccines, borderline on HIB, against MMR (although not measles) and probably against HPV and Flu.

However.. i spoke to a doctor recently who said that the feedback coming back from the HPV vaccine was excellent and they may even be able to stop doing smears routinely in the future because of that.

There is no definitive research to my knowledge that says that the HPV vaccine has prevented X number of cancers - just that it might prevent the virus that is linked in some cases to cancers, so I guess its up to the individual parent to weigh up the evidence and decide.

pleasedelete

They dont need your consent if over 14. You do get a parental consent form but it's more of a courtesy (well in this nhs area). It is explained to them at school in detail what it's all about. They are then advised to discuss it with parents but if they are over 14 they could make decision themselves.

Edit just checked and it's their decision if 12 or over. My daughter was 14.

Darlyd

However, the vaccine does not protect against all types of HPV and it is therefore not guaranteed to prevent cervical cancer. This is why regular cervical screening continues to play an important role in detecting potentially cancerous cell changes in the cervix (neck of the womb).

from here http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/HPV-vaccination/Pages/Why-it-should-be-done.aspx

My minds in over drive now, not going to be able to sleep.. argh..

pigpen

Has you child had it?

Would you let your child have it?

Yes and 2 already have

Any news reports about it? (I do remember something bad about it being discussed a while back).

There was 1 case where they claimed!! the vaccine kiled a girl.. turned out she has a massive tumour and would have died anyway and the vaccine was in no way related.

how long has it been around for?

not as long as cervical cancer has been killing people!!!!

I dont vaccinate. My children have not had any of the routine dish them out vaccines but given we have a family history of cervical cancer this was a must.. it prevents the death of 1 woman in 1000 who contract cervical cancer... My daughter will be that 1. My mother was diagnosed at 23 and 2 of my sisters were 19 and 24 when they had problems.


There is currently talk of vaccinating boys to prevent them passing on the virus.

esmy

How old is your daughter? Does she have a view?
I ask because I have two girls - the younger one had the jab through school. She was 14 and I discussed it with her beforehand so to go ahead was a joint decision. She took the view that if she could avoid cancer by any means it was well worth it. My older daughter missed it at school and queried having the jab (privately if necessary) with the GP but as she was sexually active was advised that she probably wouldn't benefit. It never occurred to me to discuss it with grandparents or anyone else in the family - not their choice and not their decision.
As others have said you can advise your daughter about safe sex but you can't make her follow your advice.
If you aren't happy, do your research first and at least make an informed decision either way.

foreign_correspondent

I suggest some people should read 'bad science' by ben goldacre - there is a very good analysis of some of the scaremongering around vaccines in it, and some really good exploration of the facts (which so often get overlooked by the media, as they stand in the way of a good sensationalist story!) and the real risks.

Bear in mind that a lot of the 'anti' lobby around the HPV jab have been coming from a political and religious standpoint - they seem to think the jab will encourage promiscuity... I see no good reason for that... after all, we vaccinate girls against rubella before they become sexually active, to prevent unborn babies from the risk that virus poses... but we don't seem to have the same concerns about the rubella jab encouraging promiscuity.

I think women will die needlessly because of the media coverage anti HPV campaigners have achieved.

Put it this way, if it was someone I cared about, I would rather reduce the risks of cancer by any means possible, i.e. by both vaccinating and advising them to use condoms...