Parents with GIRLS URGENT !!

coolcait

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

The tragic death of a young girl after the jab turned out to be entirely unrelated, her death was caused by an advanced tumour in the girl's abdomen or chest, which just happened to become critical at about the same time as she had the jab...

If you had abnormal cells at 19, I think that's all the more reason to let her have it... after all, what teenager really uses condoms all the time...?

And even if they do, the HPV virus is passed by skin to skin contact, not just ejaculate... and so condoms arent all that effective against it.... 100% condom use only reduces the chances of HPV infection by about 70% IIRC...

I wish the jab had been about earlier... it would have saved some people I have known from dreadful suffering.

I wouldn't hesitate, to be honest

Worth repeating those facts again.

justmel

The decision is obviously for you and yours to make but my twin daughters had the jabs last year and suffered no ill effects,from what they said the vast majority of their friends also had it done and not one of them had a bad reaction and the twins go to different schools so that is a lot of girls.

I have told them that it will not protect against every strain,that they still need to use protection when they are older and that they still need to have regular smear tests because abnormalities are still possible,this is just to reduce that chance and of course condoms are needed for many more reasons.

I was happy with it because i had a very invasive abnormality myself,had treatment with a spinal block due to it being a large area and me being very anxious and then i got an infection and had prolonged healing so i was keen to reduce the risk of my own daughters going through it.

ETA:I meant to add that because my treatment for the abnormality was so invasive i was told i may not be able to carry another baby,now that was absolutely fine for me because my family was complete but if it hadn't been i would have been very upset at the possibility of losing any future babies,now i know it is not 100% and i know that not every woman who has treatment will be affected in that way but any risk reduction was good enough for us.
It is very short notice for you though and it's hard to fully research something in just one night,if you don't feel comfortable say no for now,look into it all some more and if you decide to go ahead with it you can have it done a bit later on x

Fellpony_2

My daughter died from cancer this summer aged just 5 years old, not cervical cancer I grant you but if there had been a vaccine she could have had that would have given her a better chance of beating cancer we would have jumped at the chance of her having the vaccine.

Put the boot on the other foot, if your daughter had cancer would you want her to have the opportunity of being cured?? Of course you would, I hope you never have to be in that position but if she has the chance to have the vaccine now to prevent being in that situation I would take it.

crystaltipps

Another vote for yes - both my daughters have had it - and apart from the sore arm it was fine - to be honest, they kicked off more about the three vaccinations they needed for our holiday to Morocco, because they were all done at once, one in each arm and one in the thigh. Incidently, there was no adverse reaction to these either or the MMR. The vast majority of people will get a bruise at worse but will also get protection from life threatening disease.

I also looked into it beforehand and have the good fortune to be acquainted with several experts through university. My old tutor was an immunologist whos research is in trying to produce viable malaria vaccine, another lecturer I have had for two years is working on parasitic prevention medication and the human physiology and developement lecturer we have is also a doctor that researches in cancer. They all, without exception recommended it wholeheartedly. I trust these people that are at the forefront of such research and know the ins and out of it like most people know whats happening in Eastenders or Corrie. I don't trust scaremongering by the press or believers in alternative means of prevention - look how the promotion of abstinence or alternative therapies are going down in certain African nations with regards to HIV infection.

I am of the opinion that vaccinations are one of the best medical breakthroughs we have made. The person who brought up thalidomide has just thrown in an irrelevancy. The MMR scandal shows how biased research really causes these doubts.

How would you feel if, in a few years time your daughter did have the misfortune to suffer the consequences of cervical cancer?

Personally, I am hugely grateful to be living in a society that offers this service, for free, to me and my family.

System

Fellpony wrote: »

My daughter died from cancer this summer aged just 5 years old, not cervical cancer I grant you but if there had been a vaccine she could have had that would have given her a better chance of beating cancer we would have jumped at the chance of her having the vaccine.

Put the boot on the other foot, if your daughter had cancer would you want her to have the opportunity of being cured?? Of course you would, I hope you never have to be in that position but if she has the chance to have the vaccine now to prevent being in that situation I would take it.

So sorry for your loss

Gillyx

Fellpony I'm really sorry to hear that, it's heartbreaking. Hopefully an input from you will help make other people make the right decisions for there children. xx

BKAT_9

Hello, I work in medical reseach - I specialise in cancer.

I wish there was a standard 'bad media reporting of medical information' bit in every paper. It is the most frustrating thing, myself and many thousands of staff worldwide - together with many billions of pounds are spent developing things to help people. I work on global clinical trials, this country has the strictest regulations, not only is there many years of research behind this stuff but then rounds and rounds of testing (on people) and then further analysis. Seriously - the lengths we have to go through to get drugs to people is incredible. Drugs need to get passed as safe by the MHRA and then approved for use in the NHS.

I see the end effects of cancer - I work with many terminal cases, whilst it is your decision to refuse the jab you better have a damn good reason to do so. Many experts have concluded that the benefits far far outweigh the negatives, I cant find any reason to doubt that conclusion.

inkie

My 15 year old has had the vaccine, and my younger daughter in Y8 will be having it too. I'm a Nurse/Midwife. To me, there is no advantage to not having it.

claire16c

If I had girls I definitely would get them to have it. Im sure there is some statistic like 2/3 of the population have some kind of HPV. You can tell teenagers to use condoms, it doesnt mean they will - and especially if its oral sex. People die of cervical cancer. I wish this had been around years ago.

BKAT_9

grey_lady wrote: »

All vaccines are about protecting the herd, the trials for vaccines are funded by drug companies and not treated in the same way that a trial for a new drug would be.

I am sorry this is simply not true, I am not trying to appear preachy but I work in clinical research, have done so for the NHS, for the Cancer Research Network and for a Global Clinical Reseach Organisation.