E-Petition

ruggedtoast

I havent read all this thread but I dont agree with the original proposition.

Criminals should have all their benefits removed while they are in prison. Once you have come out of prison your debt should be considered paid off and you should be given every assistance to become a 'normal' member of society.

The reason this is an issue is because most of us fear that the those convicted of rioting will get very lenient sentences. Time will tell whether this is the case but the early signs are not very encouraging I must say,

StevieJ

Just out of interest does anyone think this women should be kicked out of her house?

Mum hands son to police after seeing his face in riot picture
A TEENAGER suspected of looting has been arrested - after his mum spotted him in a picture of the mayhem - and dragged him to a police station. Officers were left stunned when the 15-year-old was marched in to the station by the furious parent.
She had seen his face in a picture of Tuesday's trouble. One police source said: She confronted the lad and persuaded him to hand himself in. It was good to see." He was arrested on suspicion of burglary and was being quizzed in police custody last night.

pqrdef

StevieJ wrote: »

Just out of interest does anyone think this women should be kicked out of her house?

What a shining example of mother-love. I think we can see where this poor kid's problems start.

StevieJ

pqrdef wrote: »

What a shining example of mother-love. I think we can see where this poor kid's problems start.

Could just be a case of clever damage limitation, after all if she spotted his photo a good chance the police will also, either way it is good to see.

chris_m

pqrdef wrote: »

What a shining example of mother-love. I think we can see where this poor kid's problems start.

Really? You are kidding aren't you?

alexlyne

Two words: Demolition Man

That's the kinda world I'll live in. Absolute zero tolerance! Anyone not abiding get to live in their own underground world
reminder to myself: must watch it again soon!

(actually thought of something similar whan listening to the girl 'bragging' on the bbc news web clip saying "it's about money innit y'no, da rich people"... send 'em all off to Darfur or the Delhi Suburbs and then they'll see how rich they actually were!)

Really2

Ark_Welder wrote: »

Presumption does not imply certainty or even willingness. What about children? They are not on benefits. Should the parents of these be sacked if there is to be parental responsibility?

Well you would get sacked by your employer if you were charged with a criminal act such as looting. Would that help.

We had to sack a guy who got charged with attempted murder. The guy was innocent in the end. But you have to tow corporate line.

The general reason is bringing the company into disrepute. I dare say that assistant teacher has found that out.

Really2

StevieJ wrote: »

Just out of interest does anyone think this women should be kicked out of her house?

Doubt full as she is doing a correct thing in her community.
But I dare say the question asked by those that signed the petition would be should the child have access to council housing in the future?

StevieJ

ruggedtoast wrote: »

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The reason this is an issue is because most of us fear that the those convicted of rioting will get very lenient sentences. Time will tell whether this is the case but the early signs are not very encouraging I must say,

Here are a few they should throw the book at

Steven Keith, 43, of Kirkmanshulme Lane in Longsight, is accused of burgling M1 News and stealing items worth £1. He has been remanded in custody.

Alcoholic Shelly Bishop, 38, of Manchester Road, Middleton, pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly in Piccadilly Gardens the morning after the riot, wasting valuable police time

Ross Lynch, 24, of Bexley Walk, Newton Heath, denies swearing at a police officer during a stop and search in Ancoats.

A 17-year-old from Chadderton admitted possessing cannabis after coming into the city centre to buy drugs. The teenager – who was caught on King Street.

A girl of 17 from south Manchester admitted burglary after the court heard she looted bags of food from Gregg's bakery :eek:. Her case was adjourned until September.

Among those dealt with in the overnight sessions were beer-swigging cyclist Paul Obanyano, 42, of Cowesby Street, Moss Side, who was jailed for 14 weeks after admitting a public order offence and obstructing a police officer.

A 50-year-old man singled out volunteers for abuse when they tried to clean up the city in the aftermath. Surely that is the tramp we have all bumped into

chris_m

Really2 wrote: »

Well you would get sacked by your employer if you were charged with a criminal act such as looting. Would that help.

We had to sack a guy who got charged with attempted murder. The guy was innocent in the end. But you have to tow corporate line.

The general reason is bringing the company into disrepute.

Just out of curiosity, was he later reinstated? Seems a bit unfair that someone could be falsely accused of a crime yet still lose their job.