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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Andy_L wrote: »
    If somebody is writing something that they hope to get 99,999 people to support it helps their cause immensely if they right it well so there's no ambiguity. How much effort is it to spend 10mins & get a mate to sanity check what you've written?

    How would your boss/customers react if you wrote someting that badly at work?

    Nice one :)
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  • StevieJ
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    From twitter:

    @GuidoFawkes Guido Fawkes
    e-Petition calling for benefits to be removed from rioters has reached 100,000 and been passed to parliament.


    Passed to Parliament isn't quite right though, unfortunately.

    I will bet that Guido doesn't live in Totingham or Salford or any other area where he may suffer from side effects of such a policy.
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  • Andy_L
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    steviej wrote: »
    nice one :)

    b_ugger :-)
  • vivatifosi
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    StevieJ wrote: »

    What has the police being too heavy handed got to do with stopping benefits?
    My personal view is I am quite happy if they use Water canon, Batons, Mustard gass or whatever. I am not too keen on them beating up young kids though like some on here seem to advocate.

    This isn't pick on Stevie time, honest, but can I please ask whether you really mean mustard gas or actually meant to type tear gas.
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  • StevieJ
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    This isn't pick on Stevie time, honest, but can I please ask whether you really mean mustard gas or actually meant to type tear gas.

    A little hyperbole to try to get through to Dev :) BTW my grandad suffered from mustard gas exposure, it left him with a slight stutter (he had a hole in his leg from a bullet wound as well :eek:).
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  • Brian Paddick made a good point on Question Time tonight....

    No need to stop their benefits. The system is already in place. Once convicted, the courts have total power to impose a fine, and also to have this stopped automatically (at an appropriate rate) from benefits at source.

    I give him 100% for this common sense answer. Only trouble is, that as far as I know, the courts tend not to do this.
  • StevieJ
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    Really2 wrote: »
    I am interested in what video you saw as the vast majority seem to show people looting without a care with their faces covered?
    .

    The Daily Mail are bragging about it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024485/UK-RIOTS-2011-Manchester-police-shown-YouTube-video-chasing-gang.html
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  • pqrdef
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    I give him 100% for this common sense answer. Only trouble is, that as far as I know, the courts tend not to do this.
    Perhaps because people then need special payments so they still have enough to live on.
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  • Really2
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    Andy_L wrote: »
    If they went to prison they probably would be

    Being charged with something is usually enough to get you the sack if it is deemed justifiable.
    You don't have to go to jail before you lose your job.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2011 at 9:33AM
    Watching the news this morning it looks as if the policy is to make life as uncomfortable as possible for those charged.

    The BBC looked at a case of a 25 year woman charged, I think, with receiving stolen goods. The woman in question begged for bail because a) she was a carer for old people (and might lose her job) and b) has a 2 year old that might be taken into care. Bail was denied and, apparently, lots of rioters are being denied bail.

    Let's face it. She's going to end up with 20 hours community service (and the courts know it) but this woman is seeing real consequences from her actions. I suspect that she'll be thinking more than twice about her future actions and, who knows, in 10 years time might be keeping a closer eye on what her, then, 12 year old is up to.

    It's the best we can hope for - humiliation and a direct link between action and consequence.
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