Lose Weight 34

Occy

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

you are confusing two different things the myth comes around from the 3500 cals - 1lb so cut 3500 cals and you will loose 1lb, you will not and in 99% of cases no one will, i have a

full log of everything i have eaten and expended over the last 18 months and not once has this equation balanced, in fact its never even close

This is a summary of my food log

Day Calories Fat(g) Carb(g) Protein(g)

Wednesday 1386 48 189 58
Thursday 1521 41 223 68
Friday 1647 55 181 108
Saturday 1272 38 163 76
Sunday 1425 44 196 61
Monday 1604 38 225 94
Tuesday 1387 46 206 39

Total 10242 310 1383 504

My BMR is 2400 and I logged 850 Calories burned in exercise this week

So weekly calories needed for BMR 16800, total calories eaten 10242, total calories burned above norm 850 to calories deficit roughly 7400.

I lost 3lbs even though I was averaging 200g carbs a day, so more than expected however I am not working this week so probably was more active than my usual sitting job, plus I am stressing over the kitchen remodelling which probably takes more energy than relaxing.

I appreciate body chemistry is not simple mechanics but I still think dieting can be viewed holistically. Dieting is not about feast or famine, it's the area in the middle, so adjusting calories lower but not extremely so gets the desired effect. My concern is that low/lower carbohydrate eating seems to be pushed here as the be all end all of dieting, all I am saying the old fasioned way of eat less and exercise more isn't wrong or at least it works for some or is it only me?

Occy

jess444_2

Have not done too good with the challenge this week for one reason or another. Just realised that I now have to do 8 hrs 28 min to get to New Zealand before the end of the month in 3 days time :eek:

I like both of the ideas suggested by Lolly. I feel I could do with including more weights into my routines - as the weight is coming off there is a definate need to tone my wobbly bits up

I set myself the challenge of doing something new this month (one challenge I did acheive) and I am now enjoying Thai Chi, Salsa and Aquafit. Happy to add some more variety next month if everyone is up for that.

My concern is that low/lower carbohydrate eating seems to be pushed here as the be all end all of dieting, all I am saying the old fasioned way of eat less and exercise more isn't wrong or at least it works for some or is it only me?

Occy, for most of my life I would have agreed with you. By reducing my food intake and / or increasing my excercise I have lost weight on numerous occasions. I have found that it has been harder to do this as I have gotten older.

For a long time I have eaten a 'healthy' diet, for example, porridge for breakfast, a tuna sandwich for lunch and pasta for tea. I have cooked from scratch, reduced my fat intake, had my five a day ... and gradually got fatter and fatter. Since I have made a few really simple changes to reduce carb intake (omelette for breakfast, salad for lunch and
my usual evening meal) the weight has begun to come off. I do not feel I have drastically reduced carb intake (I have about 100 - 150 gms) a day. I don't feel hungry and I don't feel particularly deprived.

I think that lots of people are discussing low carb here beause we are finding that it works. However, as far as I am aware lots of people are also counting calories or just generally eating a more healthy diet. Hopefully it is about finding what works for each of us as an individual and supporting each other.

Matryoshka

Occy wrote: »

My concern is that low/lower carbohydrate eating seems to be pushed here as the be all end all of dieting, all I am saying the old fasioned way of eat less and exercise more isn't wrong or at least it works for some or is it only me?

Occy

Not just you I eat rice almost daily as wouldn't know what to eat otherwise :rotfl:It's so easy to bung it into the rice cooker and press 'cook'

Occy

Thanks Matryoshka nice to know I have a fellow calorie counter.

Jess, what do you consider older?

FS +30 mins exercise for me, C25K run 3 week 6, 25 minute run no walking, probably not done that since school cross country!

Occy

Matryoshka

Occy wrote: »

Thanks Matryoshka nice to know I have a fellow calorie counter.

Erm ....... I don't count calories :rotfl:I eat what I want in moderation but defo don't count calories. I was agreeing with you on the carbs bit. I eat carbs :rotfl:

Minniethemoocher

I don't know about caffeine....when I started losing weight, I went cold turkey and gave up my usual 6 cups of tea and coffee each day, had horrendous headache day 2, then felt great. I now have a couple of cups of black coffee each day, and is doesn't seem to affect my weight loss. I even have half a banana from time to time too, with no ill effects on losing.

jess444_2

Jess, what do you consider older?

I would say that from my mid 40's I have found it more difficult to lose weight. I am now 52.

I was agreeing with you on the carbs bit. I eat carbs :rotfl:

I also eat carbs. I eat either rice, pasta or potato each day with my evening meal. I just don't base every meal around carbs as I used to.

Occy

Matryoshka wrote: »

Erm ....... I don't count calories :rotfl:I eat what I want in moderation but defo don't count calories. I was agreeing with you on the carbs bit. I eat carbs :rotfl:

Ok sorry, maybe I am alone in this.

Princess_x

Hello guys. I'm back from my 2 month holiday! Came back on friday.

I have to be honest and say that it's not at all nice to be back. I was having so much fun with my family members abroad and didn't want to come back at all. I'm already missing everyone.

But back to business. I weighed myself on saturday, and I now weigh *drum beats*... 122lbs! When I left i was about 132lbs. It's so weird because I seriously thought i'd gain weight especially with their weird eating times and the kinds of food they ate, but looks like i overestimated what i ate. Weird thing is, over there i became fuller quicker than over here even with the same kinds of food, so that certainly played a part. In regards to exercise, i didn't do any sort of exercise unless you count shopping until we were literally dropping lol.

Most importantly, I checked my bodyfat% and it's gone down from about 32.9% to 30.9% which is within the normal range. BMI is 20.9 but I still see flab on my stomach and thighs and upper arms. 50kg is still my goal, but I think I'm going to focus on building more muscle and lowering my bodyfat% even more. Now that i've gotten my BMI down to the lower end of the normal range, I don't really care about my weight, just my body form. Hopefully i'll be able to substitute the fat on my thighs, tum and arms with muscle, although not too much lol.

I'm shocked that my bodyfat% and weight have gone down that much without even doing anything. I'm hoping to get back into exercising and eating healthily within the next 2 weeks. A total of 78lbs lost so far

Hope everyone else is continuing to lose fat and keeping it off.

margaretclare

jess444 wrote: »

Occy, for most of my life I would have agreed with you. By reducing my food intake and/or increasing my exercise I have lost weight on numerous occasions. I have found that it has been harder to do this as I have gotten older.

For a long time I have eaten a 'healthy' diet, for example, porridge for breakfast, a tuna sandwich for lunch and pasta for tea. I have cooked from scratch, reduced my fat intake, had my five a day ... and gradually got fatter and fatter. Since I have made a few really simple changes to reduce carb intake (omelette for breakfast, salad for lunch and
my usual evening meal) the weight has begun to come off. I do not feel I have drastically reduced carb intake (I have about 100 - 150 gms) a day. I don't feel hungry and I don't feel particularly deprived.

I think that lots of people are discussing low carb here because we are finding that it works. However, as far as I am aware lots of people are also counting calories or just generally eating a more healthy diet. Hopefully it is about finding what works for each of us as an individual and supporting each other.

I completely agree with all of this. I recall a time when my first husband was told to lose weight before going for coronary bypass surgery, that was in the mid-1970s. The whole family went on a diet to the extent that the kids complained about 'not ham salad again!' I lost weight along with him. I was doing an active job at that time.

What is 'older'? Well, I've just had my 76th birthday, so I suppose I must be.

I've tried to lose weight over the past few years, after it crept up to 13 1/2 stone a decade ago. By 'eating sensibly', eating 5-a-day, doing all the things that you're supposed to do. I did find, along the way, that I was much better without 'refined carbs' i.e. white flour and white sugar, and anything containing them. These, in today's world, are not so easy to avoid.

What I'm doing at present is having no carbs at all, apart from those contained in the veg that I'm allowed alternate days. This will only last until I've reached my target weight, which should be mid-October. After that the 3rd phase of the Dukan Diet kicks in and I re-introduce fruits, except for 4, and wholemeal bread 2 medium slices daily.

So many diets do fail because at the end of the diet people go back to what they did before, what caused the weight to go on in the first place. I watched a repeat of 'Supersize vs Superskinny' yesterday and it was mentioned that a majority of women are on a diet of one kind or other more or less permanently, but that the majority of these fail because they can't get rid of the chocolate addiction. Chocolate comes at the top of the list of addictions, then biscuits, then cheese.