Someone's Going To Get Stung

smashed

laura_marshall89 wrote:

Ah people think im nasty. I don't think what they are doing is morally right, kind, totally honest, and i would never do it myself. However technically and rule wise, it is the sellers fault. In the same way it would be my fault if i sent a laptop out to a nigerian man who was given it to orphans etc but i never received money. It would be my fault for being so stupid, even though he was a nasty bloke for deceiving me

Laura,

I do see your point. And they do bring it on themselves. But...

If you saw a mentally impaired man walk into the shop and get ripped off, would you feel it was unjust?? Of course you would. Its not his fault he is "stupid".
Yet, if you see a normal looking mum on ebay and she does something "stupid" then people think its their own fault?? How does that work.

Positive discrimination.

Perhaps the "mum" is dyslexic.. or saw the deal at the last second and rushed to put a bid in.
Or perhaps its a child with all his Xmas money, savings, and paper round money... looking on ebay for the 1st time. Stupid..naive/??

SmileBeHappy

smashed wrote:

Laura,

I do see your point. And they do bring it on themselves. But...

If you saw a mentally impaired man walk into the shop and get ripped off, would you feel it was unjust?? Of course you would. Its not his fault he is "stupid".
Yet, if you see a normal looking mum on ebay and she does something "stupid" then people think its their own fault?? How does that work.

Positive discrimination.

Perhaps the "mum" is dyslexic.. or saw the deal at the last second and rushed to put a bid in.
Or perhaps its a child with all his Xmas money, savings, and paper round money... looking on ebay for the 1st time. Stupid..naive/??

Lets be honest here, the majority of people that fall for scams, or cleverly worded listings are greedy. whatever else, primarily greedy.
Say i was a 30yr old, my husband had just left me, i was disabled and had no job and my three children and I had not even enough monbey to eat for the week etc and i realised i could sell a legitimate but yes morally wrong listing and make £300, the only way i could feed my kids for a while.
We can all find situations where it is seen as better to do wrong. Im not saying its right to mug as old man coz hes mentally impared, but most aren't- most are just greedy
Im afraid we'll never agree with this, but i agree with most of what you say.

Smickan

Biggles wrote:

Actually, no. If you were desparate for a Wii just before xmas and a bloke sidled up in the street, showed you a picture of one and said, "I've got one of these for sale", he would intend you to think (and you probably would) that he actually had a Wii. He wouldn't say, "I've got a picture for sale", would he? And you may hand over the money, only to be handed the picture!

I'd never personally buy from anyone who siddled up to me in the street and offered one :rolleyes: or a 'man-in-a-pub'

Biggles wrote:

From the wording of some of the posts, don't you think one or two of them already are?

Is that really what it has to come down to? A few people offer their opinion and they're accused of being 'dodgy'? :rolleyes:

frivolous_fay

laura_marshall89 wrote:

technically and rule wise, it is the sellers fault.

Then we're in agreement :j

smashed

laura_marshall89 wrote:

Lets be honest here, the majority of people that fall for scams, or cleverly worded listings are greedy. whatever else, primarily greedy.
Say i was a 30yr old, my husband had just left me, i was disabled and had no job and my three children and I had not even enough monbey to eat for the week etc and i realised i could sell a legitimate but yes morally wrong listing and make £300, the only way i could feed my kids for a while.
We can all find situations where it is seen as better to do wrong. Im not saying its right to mug as old man coz hes mentally impared, but most aren't- most are just greedy
Im afraid we'll never agree with this, but i agree with most of what you say.

So, the winning bidder must be "greedy".
The seller, ripping somebody off for £240 is fine. Its the buyers fault for being greedy.

I want a Wii, am I greedy? I think the winning bidder is more desperate than greedy. Greed indicates wanting to make a profit at any cost. People paying over RRP are therefore doing the exact opposite of somebody who is greedy.

Snooze_Control

laura_marshall89 wrote:

I got told off for my opinion last time, i'll try again. IMO the sellers of these 'trick' products do nothing wrong. Yes they list in wrong catergory, but then its hardly the crime of the century.

They do try to make the buyer belive its worth a huge amount more but lets be fair, its the buyers fault for be unable to read. Most sellers make it perfectly clear, by reading the auction, exactly what you'll receive- people with intelligence read an auction thoroughly if they belive its worth sat £300 for a wii or whatever, not just get excited at the words wii, and bid hundreds.

:T

Laura, I like you. I like you a lot!

Snooze_Control

laura_marshall89 wrote:

Ah people think im nasty.

No, no, no! I like you. In fact I think we should meet... What's your phone no...?

SC

SmileBeHappy

smashed wrote:

The seller, ripping somebody off for £240 is fine.

Yes, thats what i said. Thats what my 3-4 posts on the subject have said, exactly. How clever you are reading so far into a set of words than you distort them compltely and make them not even similar to the intention behind the posts :mad:
Grow up :rolleyes:

SmileBeHappy

Snooze_Control wrote:

No, no, no! I like you. In fact I think we should meet... What's your phone no...?

SC

who on earth ARE you?

SmileBeHappy

frivolous_fay wrote:

Then we're in agreement :j

Im sure i didn't say that, but yes, basically, we're in maybe 8-% agreement