Someone's Going To Get Stung

Smickan

Yes they are, I'm not denying that.

Hopefully it'll teach bidders to read listings they're bidding on next time.

smashed

Smickan wrote:

Yes they are, I'm not denying that.

Hopefully it'll teach bidders to read listings they're bidding on next time.

It will have taught ONE bidder... the person who lost out.
So what are you saying?? That every gullible ebayer should be done over once?? To teach them a lesson?

Next time someone has a new scam, perhaps you can get hit first and see if you still agree with the principle?

Also, how do we know the seller isnt offering second chances all the way down the page. He is probably not intelligent enough to do that tho

SmileBeHappy

I got told off for my opinion last time, i'll try again. IMO the sellers of these 'trick' products do nothing wrong. Yes they list in wrong catergory, but then its hardly the crime of the century.

They do try to make the buyer belive its worth a huge amount more but lets be fair, its the buyers fault for be unable to read. Most sellers make it perfectly clear, by reading the auction, exactly what you'll receive- people with intelligence read an auction thoroughly if they belive its worth sat £300 for a wii or whatever, not just get excited at the words wii, and bid hundreds.

smashed

Yet, if you walk down the road and fall down a hole in the ground because the manhole cover wasnt there... you can sue the council.

I havent heard the court say... "its your fault, you didnt look properly".

smashed

If you people seriously believe there is nothing wrong with it... why dont you start doing similar listings yourself??

Luckily, my parents brought me up to have a conscience and a sense of duty to my fellow beings.

SmileBeHappy

smashed wrote:

If you people seriously believe there is nothing wrong with it... why dont you start doing similar listings yourself??

Luckily, my parents brought me up to have a conscience and a sense of duty to my fellow beings.

Theres nothing wrong with drinking three litres of oil a day- but i wouldn't do it myself

Smickan

smashed wrote:

It will have taught ONE bidder... the person who lost out.
So what are you saying?? That every gullible ebayer should be done over once?? To teach them a lesson?

Next time someone has a new scam, perhaps you can get hit first and see if you still agree with the principle?

Also, how do we know the seller isnt offering second chances all the way down the page. He is probably not intelligent enough to do that tho

No, I'm not saying that they should get stung, or am I saying that the seller is doing right and I agree with the principle, I'm saying that it does state on the auction that it's an image and that the seller will use that if he/she gets any comeback. :rolleyes:

I do have a concience and I do feel for the bidders, but it's unlikely eBay will ever do anything about it, so hopefully the bidder will be more cautious about what they bid on. [If they ever bid again :rolleyes:]

frivolous_fay

laura_marshall89 wrote:

I got told off for my opinion last time, i'll try again. IMO the sellers of these 'trick' products do nothing wrong. Yes they list in wrong catergory, but then its hardly the crime of the century.

They do try to make the buyer belive its worth a huge amount more but lets be fair, its the buyers fault for be unable to read. Most sellers make it perfectly clear, by reading the auction, exactly what you'll receive- people with intelligence read an auction thoroughly if they belive its worth sat £300 for a wii or whatever, not just get excited at the words wii, and bid hundreds.

I see what you're getting at... but I have a few problems with the above -

- Ebay is intended to sell items from seller a to seller b - not to deceive b into buying something useless, no matter whether seller b was a bit hasty in bidding, or didn't read the small print which said 'just a box' or 'this is a picture'
- Not the crime of the century... well, that depends on your viewpoint. Scammers can make thousands this way. At what point does it become an unacceptable thing to do? £10,000? £50,000? I could pay off my mortgage with £50 grand... is it ok for me to put fake auctions up for stupid people to fall for so that I can do that?
- Can you say, hand on heart, that the actions of these sellers are those of an honest, decent human being? I'd say they're the actions of a fraudster, and a criminal, and his apologists are missing the point.

SmileBeHappy

frivolous_fay wrote:

I see what you're getting at... but I have a few problems with the above -

- Ebay is intended to sell items from seller a to seller b - not to deceive b into buying something useless, no matter whether seller b was a bit hasty in bidding, or didn't read the small print which said 'just a box' or 'this is a picture'
- Not the crime of the century... well, that depends on your viewpoint. Scammers can make thousands this way. At what point does it become an unacceptable thing to do? £10,000? £50,000? I could pay off my mortgage with £50 grand... is it ok for me to put fake auctions up for stupid people to fall for so that I can do that?
- Can you say, hand on heart, that the actions of these sellers are those of an honest, decent human being? I'd say they're the actions of a fraudster, and a criminal, and his apologists are missing the point.

Ah people think im nasty. I don't think what they are doing is morally right, kind, totally honest, and i would never do it myself. However technically and rule wise, it is the sellers fault. In the same way it would be my fault if i sent a laptop out to a nigerian man who was given it to orphans etc but i never received money. It would be my fault for being so stupid, even though he was a nasty bloke for deceiving me

Biggles

But you would simply ignore a bloke in the street trying to sell you a picture of a Wii so why should it be any different when you see the exact same thing advertised on Fleabay

Actually, no. If you were desparate for a Wii just before xmas and a bloke sidled up in the street, showed you a picture of one and said, "I've got one of these for sale", he would intend you to think (and you probably would) that he actually had a Wii. He wouldn't say, "I've got a picture for sale", would he? And you may hand over the money, only to be handed the picture!

If you people seriously believe there is nothing wrong with it... why dont you start doing similar listings yourself?

From the wording of some of the posts, don't you think one or two of them already are?