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  • Bailey - hope you feel a bit better now. Perhaps Jack may need 2 sleeps on one day and 1 on others depending on what he is doing. Charlie is now terrible at being in a routine for sleep through the day from being at nursery. Some days he has loads and one day he had 30 minutes all day despite the staff all having a go at getting him to drop off. I never forced the routine for day sleeps though, and have always let him go off when he has needed it as long as not too close to bedtime, and that works for us. (beautiful photos of Jack.)


    Lu T - if it makes you feel better, my sister whacked my nephew in the head with a bowling ball last week. She had to have an ambulance too. They had all gone bowling and as she went to take her turn, then he ran behind her as she put her arm back, and she feels really bad. He's not quite 2.


    Another week flown by. We have birthday cake from one of the playgroup tiddlers 1st birthday parties, and that means it isn't long now till we will be hosting. Charlie didn't cry at all today when i left him at nursery, so that is an improvement. He was bitten at nursery today, but was brave and didn't cry.
  • Poor Imogen, glad she's ok, just as well they bounce isn't it :rotfl:- my DD1 fell off the bed when she was tiny, made an almighty crash! I never told my OH :o - in fact never told anyone until now! She was fine of course, but I felt soooooo guilty, hadn't realised she could move about that quickly :rolleyes:

    Bailey, hope you're feeling better this evening. As others have said, it's your hormones making you feel worse. It really is hard enough dealing with the little ones without being pg to boot. Izzy is the opposite, dead easy to get her to nap, but she's a little b*gger for going to bed. Last night she screamed for half an hour solidly and I mean SCREAMED!!! I took a bag out to the bins and it was echoing all round our close! Bet the neighbours love us. No matter how exhausted she is, and she had been falling asleep during the final bottle, when I put her down, she just pull herself up to standing and yells. Bit hard to fall asleep when you're standing up isn't it, so I just have to hope that she exhausts herself to the point that she lies down. It's such a pain. DH gets totally stressed and tuts and huffs, which frankly just p*sses me off as he only has to listen to it, I'm the one that has to try to deal with it. Typically, he has gone out tonight and she went to sleep good as gold, not a murmur :rolleyes: - not got any pearls of wisdom to offer I'm afraid, I never really know what to do, although my tactic is to avoid going back in the room at all costs while she is screaming as when I used to try the going back after 10 minutes it just backfired and she'd scream even louder the next time I left the room, if that's possible. She almost makes herself sick sometimes as the screaming hurts her throat which makes her cough etc. Grim.

    Re sterilising. I did it for a year with DD1, but I stopped at 6 months with this baby. I just got fed up with it, the bottles were all being washed on the top shelf of the dishwasher anyway - I have a special little basket to put teats and rings in - which is the same as sterilising anyway according to a lot of stuff I've read on the net - so I figured why duplicate the task. I also read that in Australia, I think it was, they recommended only doing it until 6 months rather than the year that our HVs suggest which kind of swung it for me. There's also a train of thought that sterilising for too long can actually be detrimental as the baby needs to be exposed to more bacteria for the sake of their immune system. Anyway, I've not been sterilising for 5 months now nearly and she's been absolutely fine, not one tummy problem, so I think the dishwasher is doing its job. Not sure I'd have chanced it if I hadn't had the dishwasher though.

    ps... meant to say Bay, gorgeous pics of Jack, what a cutie!
  • Snaggles
    Snaggles Posts: 19,503 Forumite
    I sterilise everything, and then the little monkey picks up anything she can and puts it in her mouth anyway, so I do wonder what's the point. I think I will carry on until she is 6 months, and then I will probably stop.
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  • heather38
    heather38 Posts: 1,741 Forumite
    i don't have a dishwasher, kennedy is 10 1/2 months, i just can't be faffed with the steriliser any more, she was fully BF till 5 months and on mixed feeds till 7 months and i never sterilised my breasts! we bought one when i was pregnant incase i couldn't feed her myself. sometimes i don't bother when i'm in a rush and she's screaming for a bottle, i just give it to her. i think current advice is till 12 months but she's only ever seen the hv 8 times since she was born, so i don't care what they think.
  • Lu_T
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    Thanks girls. I'm feeling a bit better about the whole thing now.

    The paramedics told me they once went to an incident where the baby had fallen 2 floors :eek: Mum had been changing baby on the bed in the loft room when the phone rang, so she went downstairs to answer it leaving baby on the bed. Bed was the same height as the windowsill and baby had rolled off the bed, out of the window, down the roof and fallen two floors, landing on its head :eek: :eek: There was a small hole in the top of baby's head so they whisked him/her into A&E. Turns out she had a pebble lodged between the two lobes of her brain, which was successfully removed with no damage.

    The baby left hospital with cuts from catching on the guttering - amazing!

    Just shows you can't take your eyes off them for a second.

    Re sterilising - we just wash the bottles up in the sink, have never put them in the dishwasher (although in hindsight this would have been a smart idea! Too late now...)

    I have promised hubby I'll try not to break the baby tomorrow ;) Having slipped on the stairs with her a few weeks ago (big bruise on my back, not a scratch on her) I'm starting to feel like a liability!

    Purple - sounds like it's time for you to find an excuse to go out at bedtime and let OH deal with it for a night ;) She's his daughter too! We have taken it in turns to be puked on recently, saying that, she's been much better since we made her tea earlier.

    Have a good weekend all and thanks for all your lovely messages.

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  • Becles
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    I'm going to sterilise bottles, bowls, teethers etc, until Charlotte is 6 months, then just sterilise the bottles after that.

    I used to work in a microbiology lab, so I'm somewhat paranoid about bacteria that can live in milk. If you have tiny scratches on the insides of the bottles from cleaning or in the teats, you can get all sorts of nasties growing in there if any traces of milk remain. Your baby can be very sick if they ingest this bacteria in their next bottle.

    If you're not sterlising, then do make sure everything gets a very good clean in very hot water to get rid of all the traces of milk.

    Don't leave milk standing on the bench. Either make it up fresh each time, or make a batch and keep it in the fridge till it's needed. Use either a powder dispenser or ready made cartons when you're out and about.

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    Here I go again on my own....
  • Becles wrote: »
    Don't leave milk standing on the bench. Either make it up fresh each time, or make a batch and keep it in the fridge till it's needed. Use either a powder dispenser or ready made cartons when you're out and about.

    I make bottles up in batches - but only put boiled water in them - and store in the fridge until needed. It only takes a minute to whack the milk powder in and warm it through in the microwave. Figured it would give any germs less chance to multiply that way. I remember that there are rules about how long you can keep a prepared bottle of milk in the fridge for so I find my way easier to keep track of.
  • Hi all, sounds like we've all had an eventful few days.

    LU T I can't imagine how you felt and Jack has had some near misses himself. I am so glad all is well and she is back to her usual self.

    Purple yesterday I embarked on a new regime with Jack to get him back into routine. I used to put him down for his nap around 9am or soon after when he rubbed his eyes. He'd play in his cot for about 10 mins then go off, no crying and no fuss. Yesterday I kept him up until I noticed some tired signs, which was 10am, he took 20 mins to fall off and without (too) much whinging, certainly nothing hysterical, so I let him get on with it. Today he went down at 9.45am and took another 20 mins to go, absolutely no crying, just playing with his cot toys. Before I put him down I also gave him a short cuddle in his room like I would do at bed time, so he was very clear about what I was expecting from him. This seems to be working. Tomorrow it'll be 9.30 until we get back to 9am. Him going down at 10am isn't convenient to me at all and we end up spending all morning in the house that way. So I am hoping we get back on track and in a routine that suits us both again.

    We have been looking at double buggies and on Friday I went to Mothercare world. I had a "lesson" with the manager along with another interested couple about the pros and cons of each buggy. I was there for 2 hours. I finally decided on the phil and ted sport, came home, told DH all about it and then yesterday we went to look at one closer to home. He agrees with me and now we are on the search to find the cheapest deal possible. We have looked on ebay but mostly they are the E3 versions and we like the sport more as they have mudguards and the recline is better in the seats. Because they are newer there aren't many getting sold on yet.

    I am now selling Jack's brand new silver cross pram and his brand new maclaren buggy, both only used for a few months. If anyone may be interested or know of anyone please let me know. I have currently got adverts in our Tesco but am thinking of ebay too if they don't go.

    Yesterday I was tired from rushing around so much and Jack was having a whingy teatime and not really co-operating. I got cross and walked away into the kitchen and muttered under my breath (Oh just F*** Off). I was so annoyed and threw his pot into the sink. Hubbie heard the bang and came in to find me in tears, not because of Jack but because I swore. He reminded me I swore indirectly as I was walking away and not loud enough for him to hear. I think I shouldn't have sworn at all as just becuase he didn't hear, I don't want Jack to hear me swearing at all or in any event swear at him, its a habit I don't want to get into as I think it sounds awful when parents swear at their children. Yet i just did it. So felt really guilty. Then to top it off later on we had a lovely bath time then when it was time to get his nappy on he started playing up and wriggled, sat up, wouldn't lie down, kicking, rolling over etc and whatever I did or however I held him, I just couldn't get the nappy on. I was telling him to stay still etc and he wouldn't, then I shouted very loudly which made him cry and DH came in from the garden and upstairs. He thought I might need a hand. Again me in tears from frustration and having shouted at Jack. By then I had managed to get his nappy on and his pj's were easier. (We've given up on sleepsuits now for the same reason).

    After he'd gone to bed I sat on the sofa and cried, I am feeling like an awful mother, guilty for the way I had treated him today. DH tried to tell me that I am tired and Jack can be frustrating at times and that it was ok, plus being pregnant makes me more hormonal etc. But I feel I shouldn't be doing what I did and I should know better as an adult, he is only a baby. I should have more patience.

    Woke up today still feeling down and guilty, DH is out until late afternoon and so I am here offloading. I guess it will be better tomorrow......

    Hope you are all having a good weekend.

    Bay
  • Hello everyone.

    I had my little boy, William, 6 weeks ago. It was a lovely pregnancy and birth and he is such a sweetheart - he sleeps in 4 hour stretches and occasionally goes for 7 hours during the evening. I went out for the first time last night with a mate for a couple of glasses of wine which was a lovely treat - missed wine soooo much!! Was in a particularly 'good mood' when I got home which pleased DH no end!! It wasn't until things were well under way that we realised we didn't have any protection - I can't go back on the pill until the first day of my next period - and DH said he was happy to chance it. Like the drunken fool I was (3 glasses of wine never used to get me plastered!!!!) I agreed. WHAT HAVE I DONE???? Whilst it wouldn't be the end of the world if I was to get pregnant again, it would be nice to have time to lose the baby weight from having William. Does anyone know if the chances of being pregnant again so soon after birth are higher than the usual chances when you have unprotected sex? :o
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  • Hi Bailey,Try not to feel guilty for shouting at Jack, i know how you feel Tiger-Lily is 17 weeks, full of cold and has bad colic and just had her 16weeks jabs! so i know how you feel about feeling frustated... When she is screaming and whining at me i have shut her in her room (once making sure she is safe) and gone outside and had a 5min break that way once i go back and see to her i feel alot more calmer! although i do feel guilty but it make me feel better (after i have cryed my eyes out wiv fustration) it must be really hard doing it all whilst pergnant, i'm having a tough enough time with Madam and i'm not! I hope you fell lots better soon.
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