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izoomzoom

Can I get shields in the supermarket, or do I need to go to the chemist or a more specialised shop ? Weather is miserable, and probably won't be able to get out until DH gets home tonight.

Also, I usually wear a sports bar, as I find it more comfortable (I am quite small) but I have actually been walking around with my breasts exposed, as I find that any bra or top squashes the nipple, and then the crack hides in a crease and doesn't heel. With DS2 I ended up wearing two tea strainers in my bra for weeks ... :rotfl:

Sammy has been very unsettled today, and even holding her is painful as she / I seem to constrantly brush / knock my nipples :eek:

Js_Other_Half

cha97michelle wrote: »

formula is dead easy to do. Sterilise the bottles you need for the next 24 hours - put in the amount of boiled water you require and then leave on the side to cool until needed. when a bottle is required, then put in the scoops of powder you need to add, and warm if required. (to make it easier i would have one of the powder tubs that you use when out and about, and would put in it the number of scoops ready so that a bottle could be made in about 30 seconds as needed.)

I was mean and always gave charlie room temp bottles so he wasn't fussed when out and about if it was warmed.

I have to say, i had charlie on SMA gold, and i read a lot about it causing colic in small babies. I certainly found this, and am considering which brand of formula to recommend next time. One of my midwifes suggested farleys as it is the only UK brand. Some time for me to think about this though.

Michelle, x

The current guidelines can be found here - but in practise they seem very difficult to manage - eg boiling water in advance of a feed and letting it cool until 70 degrees C ??http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Policyandguidance/Healthandsocialcaretopics/Maternalandinfantnutrition/DH_4123674

I would agree with the giving the milk at room temp too - it makes life much easier. DS threw up the powdered SMA gold, but was fine on the ready made - possibly because he'd had the readymade in the medela supplementer for months before we tried him on the powder. In the ned we decided that the ease and convenience of the readymade, as well as the fact he kept it down convinced us to go for it.

(How I wish I could have produced enough breastmilk - it was costing us £1.47 a day at 1 stage!)

Curious_George_2

Mazcabs wrote: »

Hi CG, changing Henry onto aptimil full time myself as breastfeeding definately drying up. Quick question... have you been using the premade cartons or the formula milk. Henry had the pre made stuff in hospital so have been topping him up with this so far but moving onto the formula if I can but trying to get my head round it as this will then be warm compared to the cartons if I make it with water from the kettle ? and looking at the packet can you only make up one feed at a time... no one ever explained formula to me as they assumed breastfeeding would work

hi,
what the others said really... sterilise everything, put your cooled boiled water into the bottles then make up each feed as needed (one level scoop of formula per oz of water)
we do Daniels bottles in the morning and wang them in the fridge, as he wakes we make up a bottle and heat it using the trusty jug of hot water method...

cant imagine why i didnt think of doing it this way when DD was small, i used to make up her days feeds all in one go, then would have to worry about its shelf life when we went out :rolleyes:
where as now i just take a bottle of water and the correct amount of powder!

HV came, but didnt bring the scales :rolleyes:
will have to wait until clinic on thursday to find out his weight... but by then it will be a full week since he was last weighed (and 5 days since the milk change) so will probably be a better result

and i have to say im appalled at the amount of people who "know" that SMA gold isnt that good but failed to tell us when we were having all these problems! literally everyone that has asked us what milk we were on has reacted the same way when we told them... even the HV who said if a new mum comes to them saying thier baby has feeding and bowel problems then they are nearly always exclusively fed on SMA gold!!!
i strongly recommend that nobody here even considers it as a formula choice just because its a big name and you therefore think it must be the best....
we have been robbed of enjoying his first 2 weeks thanks to jaundice and then that bloody milk! :mad:

SusanCarter

:grouphug: I tried nipple shields once as I was really sore early on but they didn't work for me so ended up giving a couple of bottles of formula to get a break (OH went to Tesco to get them as it was the only place open at 11pm but I imagine any pharmacy would sell them?) Midwife told me to just put expressed milk on and only use kamillosan as a last resort as she reckoned the milk was more effective. It took about a month for me to stop wishing it wasn't time to feed and having to psych myself up for it. The thing I personaly found the most useful was expressing with an electric breast pump so OH could give a bottle and give my breasts a break from one feed a day. It may have just been psychological but it made it seem managable.

We started weaning Alice yesterday. We gave her a couple of pieces of parsnip to chew on but she was much more interested in trying to eat the apron and the highchair.

purplepatch

izoomzoom wrote: »

Can I get shields in the supermarket, or do I need to go to the chemist or a more specialised shop ? Weather is miserable, and probably won't be able to get out until DH gets home tonight.

Just checked both Tesco and Sainsbury online and they both stock them. They are called Avent nipple protectors and cost £4.50. So if you have a decent sized supermarket you may be in luck. Was talking to one of the other mums at school and she has managed to get through the worst of bfing using them too.

purplepatch

jenpoptab wrote: »

rather you than me, ha ha. I have sinus problems too and over my right eye is throbbing.

Oooh, snap! Exactly the same pain location too :rotfl:

Mazcabs

izoomzoom wrote: »

Can I get shields in the supermarket, or do I need to go to the chemist or a more specialised shop ? Weather is miserable, and probably won't be able to get out until DH gets home tonight.

Also, I usually wear a sports bar, as I find it more comfortable (I am quite small) but I have actually been walking around with my breasts exposed, as I find that any bra or top squashes the nipple, and then the crack hides in a crease and doesn't heel. With DS2 I ended up wearing two tea strainers in my bra for weeks ... :rotfl:

Sammy has been very unsettled today, and even holding her is painful as she / I seem to constrantly brush / knock my nipples :eek:

I didnt actually get problems with my nipples as Henry was so used to getting a bottle in hospital but when I came out the only way that he would breastfed ws initially using nipple shields and then finally feeding through a bottle teat which one of the MW's recommended. Although they said only use it for a while and try and get straight back onto the vreast asap.

CG - When I was in hospital it was one of the MW's again that said aptimil was probably the better out of the main three to use... If you are using the formula now , the cartons are a handy alternative when you go out although not altogether very money saving

cha97michelle

i am dreading the sore boobs part again. I have to say if i had ever been bitten by charlie that would have been the end in no uncertain terms. Those of you who persevere through all the pain have my utter admiration.

My boobs are feeling sore now when i am picking charlie up, so i am dreading what they will feel like when engorged and sore. Charlie used to be a real monkey, and i can only describe it as 'twanging' my nipples when i couldn't make the milk fast enough. I was so glad to get him on the formula in the end. i will try to keep going a lot longer this time and just have to hope it works out a bit less of a hungry baby.

I was mostly seeing bad things on the pampers and huggies forums about sma gold. I only went for that brand cos my mum and sisters used it, but thinking about it, all of the babies have had trouble at some point. Sounds like aptimil is a lot better.

heather38

i use aptamil because i read that it was closer in taste cond nutrients to breast milk than any other of the formulas.
i too give it at room temp, kennedy is being weaned onto cows milk now, so its 5oz formula and 4 of cow's milk at bed time.

re calpol night and cold, it is exactly the same as medised however it is pharmacy only. i have seen it on the shelf in boots but in empty packets that you take to the pharmacy counter.
i gave kennedy medised once and it made her hyperactive not drowsy!, i normally give her calpol with sugar as i don't like fake sugar, but medised is sugar free so i asume that it's fake sugar that did it.

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We had problems with SMA gold too, when Jack was jaundiced in hospital 2 days old, he required top up feeds, I was struggling with bf. The MW;s asked me what milk I wanted to top up with and I said whatever is the most popular. They said they couldn't recommend a milk but most parents when for SMA, so I said fine.

Took me a week or so to realise it was disagreeing with him and we changed to cow and gate, amongst others. Next door neighbour said her second baby threw up sma bottles and she went to cow and gate with no problems.

I don't know what's in SMA to cause this wind/sick thing and or why they don't change it.

Jack loved aptimil, buts its pricier and over 12 months adds up.

I am nervous about bf again but we shall see how we go, i'm going to see if I can borrow an electric breast pump, my friend said it made her life easier, I only have a hand one.