Narcisism!

meritaten

I didn't miss it - I was waiting for Poet or Dunroaming to post with good advice, as they seem to be 'experts'. the lack of advice could be also be that others are reluctant now to post. as apparently we are not qualified to do so.
as this thread has now turned into a 'discussion' on labelling narcissists being a 'bad' thing and those who don't agree with Poet or Dunroaming being rubbished, then I will leave you all to it!

just one last thing - in all the threads on narcissism you posted in LostInRates I never realised how you really felt. not once did you indicate you were uncomfortable with 'labels' of narcissism. I wish you had brought up your concerns before. they could have been discussed. and if you think some of my posts on here were 'directed' at you - you are mistaken. I thought you knew me better than that! my mistake. I wont make it again.

poet123

meritaten wrote: »

I didn't miss it - I was waiting for Poet or Dunroaming to post with good advice, as they seem to be 'experts'. the lack of advice could be also be that others are reluctant now to post. as apparently we are not qualified to do so.
as this thread has now turned into a 'discussion' on labelling narcissists being a 'bad' thing and those who don't agree with Poet or Dunroaming being rubbished, then I will leave you all to it!

just one last thing - in all the threads on narcissism you posted in LostInRates I never realised how you really felt. not once did you indicate you were uncomfortable with 'labels' of narcissism. I wish you had brought up your concerns before. they could have been discussed. and if you think some of my posts on here were 'directed' at you - you are mistaken. I thought you knew me better than that! my mistake. I wont make it again.

You must have missed my post in response to this one then?

I have to say I find this post bitter in the extreme.

No one has "rubbished" your posts. There are those who have disagreed but that is the nature of a forum. However, recently I have noticed that you create a thread and then wish to dictate how it pans out, who can post, how they post etc, etc.

That is not how it works.

missprice

lostinrates wrote: »

Just bumping for those so might miss this.

Had not forgotten these was unsure what else to put. The things that work for N parents should I imagine work for adult children.

meritaten wrote: »

I didn't miss it - I was waiting for Poet or Dunroaming to post with good advice, as they seem to be 'experts'. the lack of advice could be also be that others are reluctant now to post. as apparently we are not qualified to do so.
as this thread has now turned into a 'discussion' on labelling narcissists being a 'bad' thing and those who don't agree with Poet or Dunroaming being rubbished, then I will leave you all to it!

just one last thing - in all the threads on narcissism you posted in LostInRates I never realised how you really felt. not once did you indicate you were uncomfortable with 'labels' of narcissism. I wish you had brought up your concerns before. they could have been discussed. and if you think some of my posts on here were 'directed' at you - you are mistaken. I thought you knew me better than that! my mistake. I wont make it again.

Merit please don't stop giving advice just cos of a few 'experts'
The rest of us that have suffered through N people need as much help as possible.
Now and in future.
I sure do and I dont even have mine in my life anymore.
Whether we label them or be careful and just call it tendencies, we can be sure that ppl will read between the lines and find out more for themselves and if NEC label accordingly.

lostinrates

meritaten wrote: »

just one last thing - in all the threads on narcissism you posted in LostInRates I never realised how you really felt. not once did you indicate you were uncomfortable with 'labels' of narcissism. I wish you had brought up your concerns before. they could have been discussed. and if you think some of my posts on here were 'directed' at you - you are mistaken. I thought you knew me better than that! my mistake. I wont make it again.

In responce to the labels issue I refer you to my post ( I think number 278 where I say (very snipped)

lostinrates wrote: »

This wasn't really my gripe exactly,

But others have discussed it and I see the point exactly, and I suppose it developed my concern from where it was. Perhaps I didn't realise that was a concern of mine. Perhaps its not exactly. I haven't yet decided. The crutch (rather than the label) and finger pointing always away from ourselves however is.

Reading the profiles, lots of the information has been here has been tremendously useful.

I still cannot get away from the idea that the likely hood of heritability is immense, and wonder how easy it is to point the finger away from ourselves exclusively than considered? Its really quite shocking to me that it is only me asking this about myself. (Or perhaps its only me being silly enough to in public!) .

And I did bring up my concerns in such away as they were crudely formed, way back, when you ( as I said before) very kindly 'brushed them away' and said they simply made one human.

Tbh, I don't really care who your posts were directed at, all the posts finger pointing in both dirextions were, IMO ugly.

Vicky123

I replied to the child thread although not sure how much help it was as my own very recent dealings with MH service was nothing more than assembly line, in one door out the other, it was important to reply though as it's good to support someone when they post about their personal struggles. Some area's do have support groups though, often run by charities or set up by someone who seen the need, worth asking around. I think though that the child might be an adult, but she has a social worker who should know of any therapy or support groups.

lostinrates

Vicky123 wrote: »

I replied to the child thread although not sure how much help it was as my own very recent dealings with MH service was nothing more than assembly line, in one door out the other, it was important to reply though as it's good to support someone when they post about their personal struggles. Some area's do have support groups though, often run by charities or set up by someone who seen the need, worth asking around. I think though that the child might be an adult, but she has a social worker who should know of any therapy or support groups.

The child is an adult, but has a child.

Dunroamin

meritaten wrote: »

I didn't miss it - I was waiting for Poet or Dunroaming to post with good advice, as they seem to be 'experts'. the lack of advice could be also be that others are reluctant now to post. as apparently we are not qualified to do so.

Considering that MSE specifically forbids medical advice I would think that anyone who does so on the subject of Narcissism would be particularly foolish.

If, on the other hand people are looking for advice on how to deal with the unpleasant people in their lives, I'm as happy as the next person to throw in my two penn'orth!.:D

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Dunroamin wrote: »

Considering that MSE specifically forbids medical advice I would think that anyone who does so on the subject of Narcissism would be particularly foolish.

If, on the other hand people are looking for advice on how to deal with the unpleasant people in their lives, I'm as happy as the next person to throw in my two penn'orth!.:D

There's worse things in health and beauty if you want to preach to those who frequent it about forum rules of giving medical advice.

you seem to think that merit is diagnosing to which I see no evidence of this, plus if this was the case this thread would have disappeared!. This thread is linked to a very old one, well was until it got taken over chewed up spat and trampled on.

poet123

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

There's worse things in health and beauty if you want to preach to those who frequent it about forum rules of giving medical advice.

you seem to think that merit is diagnosing to which I see no evidence of this, plus if this was the case this thread would have disappeared!. This thread is linked to a very old one, well was until it got taken over chewed up spat and trampled on.

Or do you mean discussed?

Tiddlywinks

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

..... you seem to think that merit is diagnosing to which I see no evidence of this, plus if this was the case this thread would have disappeared!. This thread is linked to a very old one, well was until it got taken over chewed up spat and trampled on.

What a well balanced response... well done you.