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Newspapers Report "Disabled Car Plan Racket"

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  • Chorlie
    Chorlie Posts: 1,029 Forumite
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    edited 23 June 2011 at 4:22PM
    beller wrote: »
    Yep it was, and I was very grateful.

    They got me this job which I am also grateful for. Hence the reason why I wouldn't give it up even as it is killing me.
    Someone showed me some compassion - do you think it right to throw it back in their face?

    And yes, If I had been able to claim some benefits to help out (like the vast majority would have got) instead of turning to crime, I would not have been in sent to prison.
    So yes, the taxpayer did house and feed me.

    Put it this way, what would you have done given my circumstances, seen your children starve, have rags on their backs, no place warm or dry to call home.

    Probably claimed benefits - but if that was also denied to you, what would you have done.

    Just don't crticise me and not think how you would have coped if you were me at the time.


    What I would of done, is first claim all benefit I'm entitled to so I wouldn't end up in this situation (that's the whole point of the benefit system); I would of gone to the benefit office and pleaded for emergency help for my wife and kids (if I had a wife and kids, which I don't); I would turn to family and friends (those that you state also pay taxes); I would contact local charities, Salvation Army or church for help.

    What I wouldn't do is steal....


    Just another thing, while you were in Jail, how did your wife and kids feed and cloth themselves, since your wife hasn't worked for 24yrs because she is to ill to work, but has never claimed any benefits....?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    How could you look down on me?

    At least I work, which is a damn site more than can be said for the many on here.

    I don't look down on the disabled, only the disabled that choose to live the life of a disabled person.

    Chose to live the life of a disabled person? And I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous with your comments.

    And we have been without when my partner was out of work but we didn't claim income support we tightened our belts hard to avoid it bein necessary to claim and we got through it fine, two kids and all. Not once did we ever think to resort to theft because there simply is not ever NEED to do that.
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • FleurDuLys
    FleurDuLys Posts: 227 Forumite
    He's a joke Jetta, we should just leave him to it :D He's tried and failed to look down on us.
  • akabee
    akabee Posts: 972 Forumite
    500 Posts
    beller wrote: »
    I've just read this and I think I may be looking at trouble round the corner.
    Section 2 now reads like the ESA test. It used to be a lot different a few years ago. It used to be that if you get any rate of DLA you got section 2 automatically. I don't have any of those problems in the test but do get DLA lower mobility.
    Would I have to tell the tax office now?
    Been getting credits since they started and disabled tax credits before that and work 17 hours.
    Are all your posts in this thread because you only get lower rate mobility?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    STOCKWIRE wrote: »
    How dare you call some one a failure at life. Just because he voiced an opinion that you disagree with you feel fit to call him names etc. As a tax payer, member of society and human being he is entitled to his opinion, or have you banned free speech. Not so long ago some one with a mobility car wanted to know what help she could get taking her children to school ~ as her partner was using the Mobility car to get to and from work every day.
    "And who is it that is actually taking the !!!! here?"

    We have had a mobility car for a total of 11 days so far and him using it for work during the time that I am unable to use it anyway has no baring at all on the kids getting to school. Even if we used the whole mobility component to pay for taxis for them for example this would still not cover the cost and would also leave me with none of my mobility money to use for any of my own needs.

    Maybe I should go rob a bank to fund it instead like the user you defend?

    The issue is now resolved anyhow and all is fine.

    The hoards of offensive coments towards the disabled and even pensioners who've worked all their lives is just despicable and pathetic but sure defend it all you like :)
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • STOCKWIRE
    STOCKWIRE Posts: 258 Forumite
    The hoards of offensive coments towards the disabled and even pensioners who've worked all their lives is just despicable and pathetic but sure defend it all you like :)[/QUOTE]

    Regardless of his comments you have no right to call someone a failure in life, so please don't try and justify your bullying tactics. You have been just as offensive.

    I'll be called a troll now !!
  • akabee
    akabee Posts: 972 Forumite
    500 Posts
    edited 23 June 2011 at 5:02PM
    beller wrote: »
    No I am not!!!

    What I moan about is the abuse that is rife with mobility cars that they are seen as 'the family car' used by everyone for every reason, including going back and fro from work with the car parked up all day 60 miles away from home where the DLA recipient lives.

    The rules of use aren't tight enough!!

    Is it ok for people you know to abuse the Tax Credit system?
    zagfles wrote: »
    They certainly do check - they cross-check PAYE & self assessment records.
    beller wrote: »
    But only if the employer confirms the income. If she is paid cash in hand and the rest is paid legit, then the only record is the legit bit. They can never prove what the cash in hand bit is because there are no records of it being paid.

    Self employed is easier to fiddle. you just don't declare all of the income. You put through the bank what is recorded by receipts or cheques paid in, any cash received goes in the pocket.

    A family member is a mobile hairdresser has been for over 10 years. Pockets somewhere in the region of £800 a week. No records are kept and it is never declared to the tax. Runs the business through a pay as you go phone. Husband is in very low paid work NMW for 40 hours.
    They have two kiddies 4 & 8 and get a small fortune in tax credits every month. Own 2 big houses and a flat. The flat is let to one brother and a house is let to mum and dad.


    You just have to be careful about where you put the cash, definitely not in a bank. Nearly everybody I know is getting a touch from the tax credits one way or another. You have to these days with everything going up like it is.
  • beller wrote: »
    How could you look down on me?

    At least I work, which is a damn site more than can be said for the many on here.

    I don't look down on the disabled, only the disabled that choose to live the life of a disabled person.


    How does one 'choose to live the life of a disabled person'? Does that mean that it's possible to choose to not be disabled?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    Mahri wrote: »
    How does one 'choose to live the life of a disabled person'? Does that mean that it's possible to choose to not be disabled?

    Sigh, if only
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • happy_lass
    happy_lass Posts: 464 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    It is free!

    It doesn't come out of your savings. It doesn't come out of any earnings.

    The government gives you £51 a week which you choose to spend on a car.
    Directly, the government pays the supplier for the car, not you.

    There are no conditions attached to the payments, you are not contracted to do anything for this payment.

    So for all intents and purposes it is free! Well as by the Oxford Dictionary it is: free - not charged for, disengaged, available, permitted, unreserved, without cost or charge.
    Oh for gods sake, wind your neck in, you silly old goose. So what? we have a motobility car for our mentally disabled daughter. Big deal. My other half is a tax payer so, he is in effect paying for the car. :mad:
    life is what you make it, make it fun !
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