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Newspapers Report "Disabled Car Plan Racket"

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  • Chorlie
    Chorlie Posts: 1,029 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Photogenic
    edited 23 June 2011 at 2:43PM
    beller wrote: »
    The government - taxpayers, pay the rest of the Motability payments. The likes of me, my friends, my relatives and every other poor sod that works for a living earning minimum


    But do YOU, think about it this way; you say your gross wage is £190 (so getting on for £10k a year), your free pay is around £7500, therefore you are paying tax on around £2500 of you income, at 20% that's about £500 in tax you pay a year.

    You now say you also get in benefits £72 a week, therefore within 8 weeks you'll have got back in benefits what you pay in taxes per year, so the remaining 44 weeks of benefits is other tax payers money (your friends or relatives). I just find it a bit rich that you are taking (like myself and a lot of others on here) more out of the system than they pay into it and than stating the above.


    Maybe you'd also like to think again about this post, since you are disabled, on benefits and expecting to get Pension Tax Credits when you retire.
    beller wrote: »
    Maybe because people have now woken up to the fact that the sick/disabled, unemployed and pensioners are and have been taking the p*** out of those that do contribute something to the economy.
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    It is free!

    It doesn't come out of your savings. It doesn't come out of any earnings.

    The government gives you £51 a week which you choose to spend on a car.
    Directly, the government pays the supplier for the car, not you.

    There are no conditions attached to the payments, you are not contracted to do anything for this payment.

    So for all intents and purposes it is free! Well as by the Oxford Dictionary it is: free - not charged for, disengaged, available, permitted, unreserved, without cost or charge.

    Then you get loads of free food, free clothes, free beer, free anything you like to the tune of about £70 a week.

    There you go you can get a private lease with the DLA and WTC and you can have a free car too :p
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • FleurDuLys
    FleurDuLys Posts: 227 Forumite
    Has it occurred to you that the disabled/sick people who don't work and pay tax, are in this position not through choice but because they are TOO DISABLED/SICK TO DO SO?

    I would be working and contributing now, if I could.
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    Quite literal!

    At least I AM contributing. My objection is to those that contribute NOTHING. The likes of the disabled/sick that don't work and pay tax, the unemployed that don't work and pay tax, the pensioners that don't work and pay tax.

    Obviously there are exceptions. But in the main the majority in the above categories do NOT contribute anything - yet take everything!!!

    Do you have no concept of what national insurance is? Pensioners have already contributed their share to entitle them to retirement. Well most have but you won't have of course else you wouldn't be expecting to claim pension credit.
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    FleurDuLys wrote: »
    Has it occurred to you that the disabled/sick people who don't work and pay tax, are in this position not through choice but because they are TOO DISABLED/SICK TO DO SO?

    I would be working and contributing now, if I could.

    Nope they are there through choice and are just "taking the p1ss"

    What a charmer
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    No! I don't get Council Tax Benefit or Housing Benefit. We live in a 1 bed flat which is rented for just under £400 a month.
    No we have never bought a house, we never saw that as a target in life. As long as it has a roof, it doesn't matter where you live. As for renting - yes it is good, non of the agro that goes with owning one.

    In the past we have lived in a caravan, a tent and even an empty office awaiting renovation!

    Yet I have always contributed by paying tax instead of claiming means tested benefits, found our own lodgings without crying to the council, schooled our own kids when we couldn't afford the cost of uniforms etc.

    Yes, I could have used my intelligence and certainly qualified in some profession or industry, but none of that didn't interest me. I just didn't see the point of it all.

    The point of would have been that by now you would be contributing more than you are taking in benefits.

    That high horse of yours really isn't as high as you think after all is it?
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • FleurDuLys
    FleurDuLys Posts: 227 Forumite
    So you're extremely lazy, Beller. The bare minimum is enough for you. You could have achieved more, earned more and contributed more but you couldn't be bothered. Great, just what the country needs - lots of lazy people like you.
  • wild666
    wild666 Posts: 2,181 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    I've just submitted a complaint to the press complaints commission about the blatant intent to miss lead by repeatedly referring to these free luxury cars and even going so far as to give the lease costs for the cars but still leaving out the advanced payments which run well into the thousands for such cars.

    What are they going to attack next? The [SIZE=-1][/SIZE]peogeut £179 3 year deal that is run exactly like mobility, you just put in petrol the £179 covers all the rest.
    Someone please tell me what money is
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    beller wrote: »
    Yes and how would I have been able to make these larger contributions?

    By cowtailing to an employer whose sole purpose in life was to make profit at the expense of the workers! The bigger the salary, the bigger the responsibility, the bigger the stress factor, and the more you gave of yourself.

    No thanks - that isn't for me.

    Oh you're just comical.

    You're moaning about people getting hands out while happily taking them yourself because you could never be bothered to put in the effort of the people that pay for YOUR benefits.

    You're a joke!
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • FleurDuLys
    FleurDuLys Posts: 227 Forumite
    Yes, he's an utter joke. I'm laughing at him here :D It's not possible to take anything he says seriously.
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