Newspapers Report "Disabled Car Plan Racket"

jetta_wales

beller wrote: »

You tell me Oh wise one!

I have never learnt how to drive, so I have no need of a licence
I have never had a passport as I have never even considered leaving this country, and didn't have any ID to get one
Never had a bank account because I have never had anything to put in one and had no ID or fixed abode.
Never had a rent book, as I could never get a rented place without ID or references.

You tell me how I would get a passport, a driving licence, a bank account or a rent book, without ID in the first place, without a permanent address or somebody to give me a referrence?

Top it all, now as an ex con, do you know how difficult it is to even get a job if I wanted to change, get a new place tro live if I wanted to?

No.

So don't be so sanctimonious

With your birth certificate and you can get a replacement if need be.

jetta_wales

beller wrote: »

Some could do some type of work activity, some couldn't. Those that can should do so.

Those that can but don't are a minority but you've been happily tarrring all with the same brush.

dori2o

beller wrote: »

No not at all. I am grateful I have lower mobility. It didn't matter even if it was low care, just as long as I got something.

I have never applied for anything more than lower care & mobility. Those parts of the claim form I left blank.

What parts of the claim form?

It's not split up into lower rate, higher rate sections. The form asks questions about your disability and how it affects you, the DWP then make their decision based on what you have put.

Seriously, either you don't know how to articulate properly, or you're a bullsh***er only on the forums to be a WUM..

Personally I know which one of those categories I, and most likely many other on this site put you in

Chorlie

beller wrote: »

Yes I hate taking the money. I feel worthless and a scrounger all of the time.
But I have no other choice, it's either put up with it and cope best I can or drift back into crime.

Do you know, we sit down at night and have the radio on (don't have a television (can't afford the licence), and dream together that one day, we will win the lottery. And the most important part of it is, not buying a house or a car or going on holiday - none of those interest us, just enough that would mean that we could live without having to claim hand outs anymore. And secondly to actually hold a £50 note in our hands. Seen them but never touched one.

1, If you drift back to Crime and end up in Jail again, it will cost Tax Payers more than if you claimed the benefit you're entitled to....

2, You can afford to buy Lottery Tickets...!!!

3, Why haven't you being in work today?

4, You can't afford food, clothes or a TV, but you can afford a Laptop/PC and an Internet Connection...!!!

G51shopaholic

I have a Motability car. I had to pay £495 contribution towards this car.

My nephew (who is 20 now) was telling his uncle & I about a few of the people he works with who are young drivers who are named drivers
on their grandparents motability cars and basically they use the car and give the £50 a week back to their grandparents! One girl even suggested he find someone on Motability as you didn't have to pay for insurance! And she's got a new BMW!

Abuse of the Motability Scheme is something that needs tackling and fast - instead of paying off Benefit staff, the government should reassign them to this task.

pipkin71

beller wrote: »

Do you really think there is more stigma legitimately claiming benefits than being a petty thief?

Yes I do. Or is it that you choose not to read the newspapers or read the comments on this site? Read what the general public's opinion is of the sick/disabled who claim benefits. It's no different than the opinion of single women who have baby after baby to maximise their benefit payments.

I read what is said about benefit claimants. I also read the opinions people have about petty thieves. I know, on the whole who is considered a more lowly person and it isn't the person legitimately claiming benefits.

beller wrote: »

We don't need you sympathy or pity. Sad we maybe compared to you. And maybe you have no bad feelings in taking government cash hand outs.

I've not offered sympathy nor pity. I've not suggested that you as a person are sad, just your viewpoint.

No. I have no bad feelings in taking government cash hand outs.

dori2o

beller wrote: »

Why?

Because so called 'respectable' people who have a Motability car will argue that its use is for everyone in the family even if it is fraudalent. They just don't see it being THAT wrong! Yet those same people will be the first to ring up the hot line to report a young female neighbour on benefits if they think she has a boyfriend living with her!

Whereas Tax fraud is accepted by those that carry it out as wrong and will say so. They will never defend what they are doing. Get caught and it's OK.

The problem is, the short sighted ar**holes such as yourself seem to believe every word that is printed in the Daily Fail, and every lie that is spouted by Comedy Dave and Gideon.

The reality is, yes, there is benefit fraud going on. Guess what, it was going on 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. As long as there are benefits, and as long a people have a hole in their !!!!, there will be benefit fraud.

However, is fraud today any worse than it was yesteryear. NO, and the figures back that up if you bother to research them.

The problem is that this Government have an agenda against those who are too ill/poor/helpless to do anything about it.

Instead of tarring everyone with the same brush try reading the facts. in order to do that you have to stop reading the majority of tabloid newspapers as the reporting is weak at best, and the rest is just damn lies.

Not everyone who has a mobility car is on the take. My parents have one. It suits their current needs to have a car on mobility. it's only a Toyota Yaris, but they had to contribute £300 when they first got it. There is no way either of them could get to hospital/doctors appointments, manage to do a weekly shop, etc without a car, and no way they could run a car without the motability.

Claiming a benefit you are legally entitled to claim is not being a benefit scrounger, despite what some of the to**ers on this site tell you.

You have some serious problems in life if you care enough what others think of you to not claim what you are legally entitled to.

So what if you take out more than you put in. Many Bankers have been doing this for years and they don't feel bad about it.

At the end of the day, every single person who decides to live in this country (yes it is a choice, everyone is free to leave if they wish) has an obligation to help provide for those who cannot provide, or need help to provide for themselves and their families, hence the creation of the welfare state. If you don't like contributing to it, there are plenty of countries you can live in that do not force this obligation on you and you are free to go live in one of them.

TBH this will be my last post in any thread you feel the need to invole yourself in as I rather believe you are one of the many benefit bashing idiots from Discussion Time under a psudonym simply here to post rubbish and cause trouble.

jetta_wales

"I might be stupid but I am not daft!"

Hahaha that's just tickled me pink

dori2o

beller wrote: »

I might be sad and I might be stupid, but I am not daft!

Oh please... Yes you are!!!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

PO_Prune

bell_end wrote: »

Oh yeah!

and create a new identity.

Andy surely your an expert at that!