The census is after me?

Loanranger

flexrider wrote: »

I am not confused, This is my final say on the matter It is my choice in consideration and will not apply to me since i move out of england in two weeks time to Cyprus for 2 years. Got nothing to hide But until this Goverment proves to me my Infomation is safe i refuse to provide any more. Lets examine this state i have made


Wouldn't be Northern Cyprus by any chance?

pineapple

Yorkie1 wrote: »

I am not at liberty to say how I know, but I do know for sure that a different approach is being taken. The training to compliance officers is rigorous about securing the correct evidence to support prosecutions in the magistrates' court.

A 'new approach'? Who'd have guessed it!:rotfl:
I must have imagined all the publicity put out by the ONS. Plus obviously I didn't read the Review of the last Census/Freedom of Information responses and why it was an abject failure in terms of non compliance and prosecutions. Hence all the extra follow up this time round.
Nor did I think of checking out the job descriptions on the ONS site
Anyone with half a brain can deduce:
A) The 'evidence' the NCOs are seeking.
That there will most likely be more prosecutions this time around because they have more people on the case (not forgetting the 'rigorous training' ha ha).

If we are that bothered we can go to youtube and watch these second round, second rate numpties in action. My heart bleeds for the cast off coppers supplementing their meagre pensions.
A shame they didn't budget for more of them though :T

mynameisdave

Youtube and Facebook and supporting links is funny.

David Icke as a supporting link is downright madness.

Yorkie1

pineapple wrote: »

A 'new approach'? Who'd have guessed it!:rotfl:
I must have imagined all the publicity put out by the ONS. Plus obviously I didn't read the Review of the last Census/Freedom of Information responses and why it was an abject failure in terms of non compliance and prosecutions. Hence all the extra follow up this time round.
Nor did I think of checking out the job descriptions on the ONS site
Anyone with half a brain can deduce:
A) The 'evidence' the NCOs are seeking.
That there will most likely be more prosecutions this time around because they have more people on the case (not forgetting the 'rigorous training' ha ha).

If we are that bothered we can go to youtube and watch these second round, second rate numpties in action. My heart bleeds for the cast off coppers supplementing their meagre pensions.
A shame they didn't budget for more of them though :T

I have nothing to do with ONS but I really am not at liberty to say how I know about the training and other preparations being put in place for prosecutions to take place. I appreciate that this doesn't make my post as credible as it otherwise might be, but I'm not deliberately trying to be mysterious.

Indeed, we shall see how it all pans out in practice, but just don't rely on what happened 10 years ago to lull oneself into a false sense of security.

GraceCourt

flexrider wrote: »

Its not compulsary its a staus law there meaning it not official law

I don't know what planet flexrider comes from, or what he or she is smoking, but this is complete drivel - the link goes to some loony Facebook page.

The legislative basis for every Census is the 1920 Census Act, as amended by the Census (Amendment) Act 2000 and the Statistics and Registration Service Act 2007.

For the 2011 Census, the Census (England) Regulations 2010 SI 532 provided for the necessary Census Order, which was laid before Parliament on 21 October and debated in a Commons committee on 30 November 2009 and in the House of Lords on 2 December 2009. The Order was approved by both Houses and was made by the Privy Council on 9 December.

We do seem to be getting more and more very strange people posting to this excellent site! :-(

kaya

the law in this country is an !!! , the law states quite clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 for refusing to fill out the census form, the law does not state that ignoring somebody who is knocking at your door will result in a £1000 fine, it does not state that you must make yourself available at any given time for filling out the census or recieve a £1000 fine,however anybody who answers the door and refuses to fill it out will be liable for the £1000 fine, i haven't filled mine out, the warmongers who have the contract for carrying out the census were hacked only the other day , i won't answer my door to any strangers , that is my right, the census collectors have no rights of entry to my property, the police can gain entry with a search warrant, i cant see any judge in the land giving out warrants to police to back up census collectors for people who dont answer the door, so unless i "refuse" either verbally or in writing to the census collectors there is nothing they or law can do about it, i wonder who the hackers are gonna sell all that private and personal info people have given away to?

Yorkie1

There will be evidence that the census form was delivered to your house. There will be evidence that you have not filled it in. That is the offence completed; the offence is failure to fill it in on or reasonably after (I think) the date of the census. Not to refuse on the doorstep to fill it in - this is simply giving you extra chances to comply without being prosecuted.

Flyboy152

kaya wrote: »

the law in this country is an !!! , the law states quite clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 for refusing to fill out the census form, the law does not state that ignoring somebody who is knocking at your door will result in a £1000 fine, it does not state that you must make yourself available at any given time for filling out the census or recieve a £1000 fine,however anybody who answers the door and refuses to fill it out will be liable for the £1000 fine, i haven't filled mine out, the warmongers who have the contract for carrying out the census were hacked only the other day , i won't answer my door to any strangers , that is my right, the census collectors have no rights of entry to my property, the police can gain entry with a search warrant, i cant see any judge in the land giving out warrants to police to back up census collectors for people who dont answer the door, so unless i "refuse" either verbally or in writing to the census collectors there is nothing they or law can do about it, i wonder who the hackers are gonna sell all that private and personal info people have given away to?

Have you actually read the act?

The police do not need a search warrant to enter your property.

Resisting arrest is covered by a different act.

Flyboy152

Yorkie1 wrote: »

There will be evidence that the census form was delivered to your house. There will be evidence that you have not filled it in. That is the offence completed; the offence is failure to fill it in on or reasonably after (I think) the date of the census. Not to refuse on the doorstep to fill it in - this is simply giving you extra chances to comply without being prosecuted.

The deadline for submitting the form was the sixth of April.

Money_User

kaya wrote: »

so unless i "refuse" either verbally or in writing to the census collectors there is nothing they or law can do about it, i wonder who the hackers are gonna sell all that private and personal info people have given away to?

You're talking complete crap!!!!

Like I posted ages ago in this thread, via Google (this should give you plenty of scope) name the people who suffered problems from the information they gave from filling in the last census back in 2001.

Yet another person who won't get back to me because it's none!!!