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crippling back digging the garden and doing Zumba

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  • Brassedoff
    Brassedoff Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    wattdallas wrote: »
    So a person can receive dla for severe back problems yet be out in the garden digging and doing the zumba :j

    Not in my experience, but then as someone with more than a severe condition (according to the Neurosurgeon being one of only three cases of the kind the hospital has ever dealt with), I would never dream of being able to do so. Even sitting now hurts, doing the garden and being able to qualify for DLA cannot go hand in hand surely? Sod the "think about them and their conditions" malarkey, they must have exaggerated their symptoms on the claim form or got better and forget to tell the DLA. Or the OP has taken doing a bit of light weeding with tools or doing a bit of clearing up as "heavy gardening".

    My 20 year old Daughter goes to Zumba and she looks knackered after it, although I expect there are differing levels of participation.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    FleurDuLys wrote: »
    Oh :( I think it's really unfair if the DWP tell people that they're being investigated. Surely there's no need.

    The DLA have no choice but to inform the claimant. If the DLA receive a report they send out a whole new claim pack and the claimant has to go through the procedure again as if it is a new claim. The main difference being the time the DLA allow to return the form, which in my experience can be as little as two weeks from the date the letter drops through the letterbox.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
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    Brassedoff wrote: »
    My 20 year old Daughter goes to Zumba and she looks knackered after it, although I expect there are differing levels of participation.

    Yes, there are definitely different levels of participating and also different classes. Some classes are aimed at older people and/or people with reduced mobility and are tailored to those people's abilities. Clearly the needs and abilities of a fit energetic 20 yr old will be different from someone in their 50's with a bad back. But that doesn't mean the 50 yr old should not attend a suitable class with the support of their GP/consultant. At the very least the social interaction might help to stave off the depression that can be a complicating factor when someone is isolated owing to physical illness.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • karenmay33
    karenmay33 Posts: 167 Forumite
    Well this has surly caused a lot of rants.... i wonder how many genuine people have bad backs and just wish the could go outside and dig the vegetable patch? and how many claim disability for a bad back can jump up and down do the twist and DIG the vegetable patch.... i will apologies to all the genuine BAD BACK sufferers on here i seem to have discriminated. Only people with a GUILTY Conscience would RANT on LIKE MAD MEN about my post. also age has nothing to do with the OP
  • zzzLazyDaisy
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    karenmay33 wrote: »
    i will apologies to all the genuine BAD BACK sufferers on here i seem to have discriminated. Only people with a GUILTY Conscience would RANT on LIKE MAD MEN about my post. also age has nothing to do with the OP

    Hmmmmm.........

    You and I must be reading different threads, since I cannot find any posts where the poster could be described as ranting on like a mad man.

    Well, with the possible exception of the post quoted above.

    OP if you post a thread, you must expect diverse views in response. Just because other people have different experiences and viewpoints, it does not necessarily follow that they have guilty consciences - I am disabled owing to a spinal injury sustained in a car accident and I can assure you that I do not have a guilty conscience about claiming DLA, which helps to pay for my live-in carer - although I do think the maniac who slammed into my car while using a mobile phone should at least have a twinge to his conscience now and again for the injuries caused by his idiotic behaviour.

    I have better things to do with my time.

    I'm out.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • pelirocco
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    wattdallas wrote: »
    Karennmay , yes you would think all GENUINE disabled people would agree and say frauds are wrong but not here i hasten to add ,you will be told oh they have hidden disabilities etc etc .

    Im glad you have reported this person .And im sorry for the nasty comments you have received.:)



    you need to read her other posts :D
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  • eskimo26
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    karenmay33 wrote: »
    what a joke the woman near me digs her garden and posts on facebook she's been Zumba classes for over 6 weeks, but yet she's been decline yet another back op as there is nothing they can do for her..... she walks around with a stick or rides on her mobility scooter, or is flying about in her mobility car... i wish i could afford to buy all the latest gadgets, apply for 4 venues at the Olympics for the family of 4..... looks like benefit is best................

    This is probably the only ranting post of relevance on here and it's yours. People that disagree with you don't have a guilty conscience they are simply more knowledgable then you about chronic conditions and physical activity and smarter then you because they assimilated the information when they came across it rather then choosing to remain ignorant.

    I'm not sure what you expected writing an emotive post that screams jealousy as opposed to a balanced one. Then telling people that they have a guilty conscience for ranting against you!:rotfl:

    Please educate yourself if you want people to take you seriously, especially when people present the information to you and you seem to ignore it, makes me feel like i wasted my time. Are you interested in engaging in the relevant research at all? I'm not interested in replying to immature accusations of guilty consciences especially given the unbalanced tone of your original post. :(

    Oh and for your information benefit is NOT best! Unbelievably insulting and to actually post that in the disabled area is unbelievably arrogant. Add this to your rant list if you like. :mad:
  • pwales_2
    pwales_2 Posts: 523 Forumite
    karenmay33 wrote: »
    Well this has surly caused a lot of rants.... i wonder how many genuine people have bad backs and just wish the could go outside and dig the vegetable patch? and how many claim disability for a bad back can jump up and down do the twist and DIG the vegetable patch.... i will apologies to all the genuine BAD BACK sufferers on here i seem to have discriminated. Only people with a GUILTY Conscience would RANT on LIKE MAD MEN about my post. also age has nothing to do with the OP
    call it a rant if you like, my post clearly says if you have FACTS! report her.....
    but i also pointed out that day to day things are possible whilst on dla...
    as for genuine disabilitys i am a perminant wheelchair using para pleigic, with all the problems that come with it pain continace ect......but you still rattled my cage because you appear in the words used in youre post to be jelous of what she gets rather than concerned that fraud may be involved

    edit i broke my back i am a bad back sufferer :-)
  • I get DLA and actually managed to walk my dog yesterday. Anyone watching me would have probably thought I was fine even though I was using crutches but what they didn't see was the next 15 hours I spent in bed, 13 of which were fast asleep, I missed an appointment because despite three alarm clocks I couldn't get up. When I did get up I was so tired and out of it that I tripped over my own feet and missed knocking myself out on the radiator by cm's. I managed to eat half a packet of crisps before admitting defeat and going back to bed for another three hours... All because I dared to try and walk my dog. Every time I walk it has a negative affect on me, but if I didn't try and push through the pain I would end up in a vicious negative cycle, it is a constant battle to try and pace activity to minimise after affects yet try and have a life worth living.

    The other day I actually dared to go swimming and heaven forbid if I take up this aqua fit class I'm considering, obviously all my benefits should be taken away and I should be getting off my fat backside getting a full time job because if I'm 'fit' enough to try and actually help myself and try to stop myself from deteriorating physically ( thus in theory entitling me to more benefits) then I'm fit enough to walk and work.... If only.
  • SingleSue
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    This is the biggest reason (apart from pride) which is stopping me even attempting to claim DLA. The thought that someone could see me on a good day struggling to put the bins out and ring up the fraud line to report me makes me believe it is not even worth trying, the loss of money while it was being sorted out would be too horrendous for us.

    I don't have many good days now, I am completely reliant on crutches and the distance I am able to walk without pain is frighteningly small, so I just avoid going places where I will have to walk any great distance now, which includes our town centre as that is disabled only parking/driving through on the main road through it and the nearest car park, although not too much trouble for someone in good health, for someone like me, is an impossibility ....mind you, was never one for shopping trips but the boys are getting a little peeved at not being able to go there.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
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