crippling back digging the garden and doing Zumba

wattdallas

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Yes, but someone who knows that he is on DLA, without knowing the reasons for this, might see him running a marathon and think 'he gets DLA, there is obviously nothing wrong with him'.

And that is the point.

There are lots of reasons why people get DLA, not all of them are obvious to the person in the street. It doesn't mean the the autistic person who runs a marathon is a faker, and it may not mean that the apparently able bodied person you see in the street is a faker either. Without knowing their circumstances the uninformed observer cannot know why that person gets DLA.

I understand what you are saying but the average "normal" person doesnt report some stranger they see going about their day .Its more often someone you know well ,maybe even a family member.

You just cannor genuinely receive DLA and mobility for severe spinal problems and be out digging the garden and shakin her bootie doing the zumba.

Come on we all know someone on the fiddle be it dla or any other benefit.:)

zzzLazyDaisy

wattdallas wrote: »

Come on we all know someone on the fiddle be it dla or any other benefit.:)

You and I must mix in different circles then, because I don't know anyone who is 'on the fiddle' with DLA or with any other benefit.

I do however know a number of people who have been unfairly and unjustly reported for falsely claiming benefits. Without exception they have each been exonerated and their benefit entitlement confirmed, but that does not wipe out the distress and upset this causes to people who are already sick and often struggling to cope on a daily basis.

As I've said before - if you really know the facts and still believe someone is defrauding the system, then of course go ahead and report them. I would do the same - but only if I really knew the facts.

intranicity

wattdallas wrote: »

You just cannor genuinely receive DLA and mobility for severe spinal problems and be out digging the garden and shakin her bootie doing the zumba.

All depends on what digging the garden is to be honest, I have a back injury, I get LRC, WPMS, WP Unemployability Supplement etc etc.

I 'dig' my garden, admitedly on my hands and knees, and it's weeding rather that digging the veg patch. It needs doing and no one else will do it for me!

One of the reasons I get LRC because is "because I can't prepare a meal for myself", but I can and do, I live alone, so what am I meant to do, STARVE? It just takes me far longer.

I've never done Zumba, I have two left feet for a start, but I use recumbent exercise bikes, swim, treadmills etc (Being able to support myself on my arms makes it possible to walk, almost like a zimmer frame)

Not bothered if someone reports me though, as I hope that I would not face any sanctions, but not doing some exercise would end up with me being in a wheelchair, so I know which course i'll face, and deal with the concequences later if they arrive

wattdallas

intranicity wrote: »

All depends on what digging the garden is to be honest, I have a back injury, I get LRC, WPMS, WP Unemployability Supplement etc etc.

I 'dig' my garden, admitedly on my hands and knees, and it's weeding rather that digging the veg patch. It needs doing and no one else will do it for me!

One of the reasons I get LRC because is "because I can't prepare a meal for myself", but I can and do, I live alone, so what am I meant to do, STARVE? It just takes me far longer.

I've never done Zumba, I have two left feet for a start, but I use recumbent exercise bikes, swim, treadmills etc (Being able to support myself on my arms makes it possible to walk, almost like a zimmer frame)

Not bothered if someone reports me though, as I hope that I would not face any sanctions, but not doing some exercise would end up with me being in a wheelchair, so I know which course i'll face, and deal with the concequences later if they arrive

But this op gets HRM :rotfl:Virtually unable to walk or cannot walk at all ,be in severe pain when walking,let alone dig the garden and be doing the zumba:)

ZZdaisy just because you dont know of anyone on the fiddle it doesnt mean there arent.:eek:

My circle of friends are other mums and dads who have severely disabled children ,but i live in a small town where everybody knows everyones business .:)

SingleSue

I'm another who doesn't know someone falsely claiming benefits....but maybe that is because I keep myself to myself and lead such a sad life that I don't actually meet up with people for talks.

savvyme_4

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

You and I must mix in different circles then, because I don't know anyone who is 'on the fiddle' with DLA or with any other benefit.

I do however know a number of people who have been unfairly and unjustly reported for falsely claiming benefits. Without exception they have each been exonerated and their benefit entitlement confirmed, but that does not wipe out the distress and upset this causes to people who are already sick and often struggling to cope on a daily basis.

As I've said before - if you really know the facts and still believe someone is defrauding the system, then of course go ahead and report them. I would do the same - but only if I really knew the facts.

I totally agree with this post ... it's not good being a snitch !! I myself always give someone the benefit of the doubt :beer:

jetta_wales

SingleSue wrote: »

I'm another who doesn't know someone falsely claiming benefits....but maybe that is because I keep myself to myself and lead such a sad life that I don't actually meet up with people for talks.

I know that feeling.

Prinzessilein

I only know one or two other people claiming benefits (I don't get out much and don't know many people at all!)...each of those people is claiming legitimately. Actually, one girl isn't claiming everything that she is entitled to (the powers that be don't always make it clear what you can claim, and certainly don't make the claiming process easy!) so I've pointed her in the direction of someone who can go through things with her.

The number of people claiming disability benefits fraudulently is actually very small. I would be surprised if we 'all' knew someone fiddling the system...I certainly don't.

Malory

intranicity wrote: »

I've never done Zumba, I have two left feet for a start, but I use recumbent exercise bikes, swim, treadmills etc (Being able to support myself on my arms makes it possible to walk, almost like a zimmer frame)

Not bothered if someone reports me though, as I hope that I would not face any sanctions, but not doing some exercise would end up with me being in a wheelchair, so I know which course i'll face, and deal with the concequences later if they arrive

Yes. Has the OP considered that this lady may be gardening and taking Zumba classes because her doctor has told her that she needs to get some exercise?

The Zumba instructor could be working around her disability.

daska

wattdallas wrote: »

But this op gets HRM :rotfl:Virtually unable to walk or cannot walk at all ,be in severe pain when walking,let alone dig the garden and be doing the zumba:)

ZZdaisy just because you dont know of anyone on the fiddle it doesnt mean there arent.:eek:

My circle of friends are other mums and dads who have severely disabled children ,but i live in a small town where everybody knows everyones business .:)

I think you are deliberately missing the point about Zumba. Any level of fitness/ability can be catered for because it isn't compulsory to be able to shake your booty, or even stand up, in fact I know someone who on occasion has simply gone along and watched because they couldn't achieve more on that occasion. It's fun! It's social! It's called having a life...

HRM doesn't require you to be in pain, nor that you should be unable to take an appropriate exercise class for your fitness level. She might well have been in severe pain and/or discomfort whilst doing the zumba or the digging and spent the rest of the week on the sofa - and that isn't inconsistent with HRM either as it should take into consideration the whole impact, both immediate and delayed.

It seems to me that you are intent on believing that anyone who doesn't lead a sad and boring life confined to their chair and home doesn't qualify as disabled - thankfully there are others who allow that a zest for life and a determination not to be beaten by our respective disabilities does not mean that those disabilities are not very real.