Can I stop him going

samm1551

Cod_Almighty wrote: »

I'm pretty sure, that money earn't on Ops other than basic pay doesn't count when it come to CSA.

This is correct.

oscardog

kimberley wrote: »

Unfortuantly there is no way of stopping him volunteering and being deployed. I am a serving Army wife and my husband is off there in July, we havent seen him for 6 months since moving back to germany last year. There isnt anyway to stop any deployment of a single soldier unless medically unfit.

Have you any friends or close family that could help out?

Not true. I am currently one of the regular staff attached to a TA unit. Bottom line is that if he has volunteered as a TA soldier, he can withdraw at any time. We have lost loads of our original volunteers for our support to operations.

They can only not withdraw once they have been mobilised at RTMC (although they can still be rejected through failing RTMC tests).

If he has received compulsory mobilisation that is different but that does not seem to be the case here.

To the OP - be wary of the differences between a Regular soldier deploying and a TA soldier volunteering. They are poles apart.

To all other posters, if you are not involved in the TA be careful of throwing out advice and facts that are only applicable to Regular forces.

WhiteHorse

intranicity wrote: »

I guess you are not anything to do with the military

An assumption, and possibly a wrong one. Is this contempt for those perceived to be 'mere civilians'?

hey ho, we all have opinions, but get your facts right about the TA next time

No, the TA is not intended to support foreign expeditions. The large numbers of TA members who have declined to be used in this way indicates that they think so too.

Esoog

WhiteHorse wrote: »

An assumption, and possibly a wrong one. Is this contempt for those perceived to be 'mere civilians'?


No, the TA is not intended to support foreign expeditions. The large numbers of TA members who have declined to be used in this way indicates that they think so too.

The Territorial Army, or TA as it is usually known, is part of Britain's reserve land forces. Together with the Regular Reserve the TA provides support to the Regular Army at home and overseas.
It is fair to say that throughout its history, almost every major operation has seen TA soldiers operating alongside their Regular counterparts.

http://www.army.mod.uk/structure/143.aspx

Territorial soldiers and officers train in their spare time to provide support to full-time Regular units when they’re needed. When the Army goes on operations overseas, you’ll find Territorial soldiers serving alongside the Regulars. From doctors and nurses in field hospitals to Infantry soldiers working on the front line, most Army jobs are open to Territorials.

http://www.army.mod.uk/join/20233.aspx

I could go on, however let's just be clear; the function of the TA is not simply one of "home defence"

TA ROLE
Following the 1998 Strategic Defence Review, an extensive restructuring of the Territorial Army took place with the aim of making it more relevant, more usable and more fully integrated into the regular armed forces. As a result of the restructuring, the establishment strength of the Territorial Army reduced to 41,200, while some 35,480 personnel were on strength in September 2004 compared to an establishment 41,820. The Territorial Army was restructured to:

• allow it to meet new operational demands - the sort of demands it is likely to face in the 21st century
• maintain close links with the community and society at large through a broad presence across all regions of the country
• provide a degree of insurance to allow the generation of a larger force if required at some time in the future

The restructured Territorial Army became less focused on the traditional role of home defence and placed a greater emphasis on more relevant tasks such as supporting and sustaining deployed regular forces in operational areas like the Balkans. In order to do this, the Territorial Army now concentrated on roles such as artillery, air defence, signallers, logisticians and particularly medical services.

The large numbers of TA members who have declined to be used in this way indicates that they think so too.

Can you supply some real figures rather than anecdotal evidence for this statement?

intranicity

WhiteHorse wrote: »

An assumption, and possibly a wrong one. Is this contempt for those perceived to be 'mere civilians'?

No, this is the contempt that I have for people that make statements about things that they 'think they know about' but are actually talking out of their nether regions!!!

As for me making assumptions, yes, quiet possibly wrong, but I doubt it :beer:

WhiteHorse

Esoog wrote: »

The Territorial Army, or TA as it is usually known, is part of Britain's reserve land forces.

Er, right.

I could go on, however let's just be clear; the function of the TA is not simply one of "home defence".

I am aware of the phraseology.

Can you supply some real figures rather than anecdotal evidence for this statement?

Read the national press.

Now here's a question for you. Why hasn't the government issued a compulsory call-up for the TA with a stated objective that members will be sent overseas?

WhiteHorse

intranicity wrote: »

No, this is the contempt that I have for people that make statements about things that they 'think they know about' but are actually talking out of their nether regions!

*sigh*

As for me making assumptions, yes, quiet possibly wrong, but I doubt it

Those who have had the doubtful privilege of scraping someone else's insides off their outsides tend to be more sceptical when it comes to military adventures.

It's the wannabe's that usually make the noise.

Esoog

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Read the national press.

Now here's a question for you. Why hasn't the government issued a compulsory call-up for the TA with a stated objective that members will be sent overseas?

a) So that's a no to the facts rather than anecdotal?

b) It doesn't need to? Why send the TA on mass abroad when there's no need? The current system of intelligent mobilisation with either individual or larger augmentees to "fill in the gaps" in regular units/provide specialists is entirely more suitable.

Btw if you are not aware, a formed TA regiment deploys to Cyprus on TOSCA every two years or so now.

And here's an example of the TA on ops doing a VERY useful job;

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/VolunteerMedicsReadyToRunCampBastionHospital.htm

Whitehorse, the TA I suspect you knew of the late 80's early 90's that was a drinking club put together with the aim of being cannon fodder for the 3rd shock army no longer exists.

intranicity

WhiteHorse wrote: »

It's the wannabe's that usually make the noise.

Totally agree, what is it you want to be then? Someone that has a clue what they are talking about would be a good aim!

Myself, I'd like to have a decent pension, money to have nice holidays etc, but I chose to serve and paid a price, not just in regards to my health but also my future earnings, but I'm proud that I did :beer: So if you are asking if I'm a "Wannabe" regarding being in the military, no, because I have already had that honour!

pendulum

susan1105 wrote: »

He looks after them a lot while I work and he has them every other weekend.

Good, and now its your turn to look after them while HE works.

He's going to serve his country, lets hope he doesn't get distracted on the front line with any hassle or worries you give him before he goes, think about him and not just "me me me".