The Great Stripper Issue

pokerpad

I think some women like seeing their partner do more than that and vice versa!

Graham29

pokerpad wrote: »

I think some women like seeing their partner do more than that and vice versa!

Maybe, but certainly not the OP. Some women/men may like dogging, threesomes etc. We all have limits on what is acceptable. People can post all day long about how its acceptable in their own marriage, but that doesn't matter and isn't anything to do with the OP, her feelings and situation with her OH.

As a man, I think its a massive lack of respect for a women, and the old "boys will be boys" attitude is ridiculous! These aren't boys, but men. Stag do's can be so much more than a cheap thrill watching some naked women wiggle her !!!/boobs at you!

dark_lady

Would a man who goes on one of these weekends be happy if his wife was stripping or offering extras etc? If a husband wouldnt like that idea but still goes to see strippers that makes him a hypocrite with a Madonna/!!!!! complex!

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It is 2011 not 1911 or 1811 !

So what if a few blokes want to go somewhere and get drunk, make fools of themselves and have a laugh without their nagging women folk bickering. Perhaps the oh so shocked and disgusted should think why it is that guys need to fly to different countries to get away from their holier than thou wimmin.

Cut the guys some slack and just get over it. Or do you want him hiding everything from you because that is what you will get.

wongstack

We men see strip clubs very differently to women, we view it as light hearted entertainment, like going to the cinema etc.

I understand your self confidence issues anon but strip clubs aren't really about comparisons, they are about having a few beers with your mates while watching naked women dance. To us it's just a bit of fun.

I have been to strip clubs here and abroad and have never been offered any extra services etc, even if they had been on offer I could easily say no, as could your man

If you trust him then let him go, the more you nag and complain the worse things will be for both of you.

The more you tell him not to go the more he is going to want to go, we chaps won't be told what to do.:beer:

Fang_3

dark_lady wrote: »

Would a man who goes on one of these weekends be happy if his wife was stripping or offering extras etc? If a husband wouldnt like that idea but still goes to see strippers that makes him a hypocrite with a Madonna/!!!!! complex!

Do you claim the same of everything?

Tropez

dark_lady wrote: »

Would a man who goes on one of these weekends be happy if his wife was stripping or offering extras etc? If a husband wouldnt like that idea but still goes to see strippers that makes him a hypocrite with a Madonna/!!!!! complex!

This really has nothing to do with the Madonna-!!!!! complex. The complex which you speak of is where an individual considers a wife to be a maternal figure (as is typical for Freudian psycho-babble, because mummy wasn't maternal enough) and thus the possibility of sexual relations with the wife is psychologically difficult or impossible due to the fact that said individual would consider it incestuous and consequently is only able to seek sexual gratification from women he considers filthy and the opposite of his wife.

It has absolutely no bearing on a discussion with regards to men who wouldn't want their wives to strip but see strippers themselves, unless you are somehow suggesting that a male who attends a strip show is mentally incapable of having a sexual relationship with their partner? I would also add that I would doubt there is any real evidence that all men who view strippers consider them to be akin to filth or prostitutes. I feel it is suggestions such as this that objectify and degrade both men and women more than merely taking in a strip show.

As for the hyprocrisy you suggest - I'm not convinced by that either. Aside from the fact these "extras" are not actually part of the package referred to in the OP (unless you're referring to the lesbian show) nor are they on offer in the vast majority of legitimate, licensed establishment, the fact that one may not want their wife to be a stripper is akin to someone not wanting their wife to be a police officer, or a soldier, or a fire safety officer, or a teacher, or a nurse, or any other job that, for whatever reason, somebody might not want their partner to pursue as a particular career path. It is hard to escape the need for law enforcement, medical, educational and safety services but at the same time is it not easy enough for one not to wish a loved one to be part of that system? Even if we removed necessary services, would it be hypocritical for one not to want their partner to work in say, an abbatoir, despite being a meat eater?

What might be somewhat contentious is a man who chooses to pursue a relationship with a stripper and then decides that they want their partner to cease stripping, when already being fully aware of that person's chosen profession.

Not everybody will agree that strip clubs are acceptable forms of entertainment, but throwing around the "what if it was your wife/daughter/sister" cards have no overall bearing on the argument. A person is free to make their own decisions, and if they choose to strip, then so be it. Those who choose to patronise establishments offering these services are not required to adhere to any form of psuedo-morality, nor are they necessarily any one of the various pejoratives that have been bandied about on this thread. Different people enjoy different things, and that goes for all walks of life and all forms of entertainment, whether we are talking about jazz clubs or strip clubs and if people choose to offer these entertainments then that is all fine by me.

janninew

wongstack wrote: »

We men see strip clubs very differently to women, we view it as light hearted entertainment, like going to the cinema etc.

I understand your self confidence issues anon but strip clubs aren't really about comparisons, they are about having a few beers with your mates while watching naked women dance. To us it's just a bit of fun.

I have been to strip clubs here and abroad and have never been offered any extra services etc, even if they had been on offer I could easily say no, as could your man

If you trust him then let him go, the more you nag and complain the worse things will be for both of you.

The more you tell him not to go the more he is going to want to go, we chaps won't be told what to do.:beer:

I have to wonder what kind of man would put this "bit of fun" above the feelings of his wife and mother of his children?

Also the last part of your sentence isn't always true - some men like being told what to do!!

dug123

janninew wrote: »

I have to wonder what kind of man would put this "bit of fun" above the feelings of his wife and mother of his children?

Also the last part of your sentence isn't always true - some men like being told what to do!!

I agree 100% with WONGSTACK and if my "wife and mother of my children" did not want me to have a "bit of fun" then she would never have been my "wife and mother of my children".
She would be making someone else miserable.

manda1205

dug123 wrote: »

I agree 100% with WONGSTACK and if my "wife and mother of my children" did not want me to have a "bit of fun" then she would never have been my "wife and mother of my children".
She would be making someone else miserable.

But do the men commenting on here have wives and children?