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Pollycat

esmerelda98 wrote: »

I think you are one of these women who'd have a catfight in the street claiming someone looked at you in a 'funny' way.

Then you think wrong.

esmerelda98 wrote: »

You have been very aggressive and deliberately provocative from the start, with very little to go on. I read the first 40 odd posts, and didn't see any evidence of the original poster 'having a real downer' on her step-daughter.

I'm not the only person to attribute less-than-altruistic motives to the OP.

In my opinion, this is a pretty nasty thing to wrire on a public forum about a 16 year old girl.

also have to say DSD is about a 36ggg so spose it is better for her to cover her boobs and let the legs show.l

esmerelda98 wrote: »

She expressed an opinion on her step-daughter wearing that dress and people may have differing opinions but there is no need for people to make out that she is some sort of wierdo or oddball.

She asked on a public forums for people's opinions.
She got them - including mine.
She obviously expected everybody to agree with her - the majority of poster didn't.
I'm not making out she's an odball or some sort of weirdo.

esmerelda98 wrote: »

The fact she is talking about her step-daughter and not her daughter complicates issues a little, but I suspect the responses would be much the same regardless. Because it is a crime in this day and age to have standards. It is a crime to dress modestly and be sexually modest. Proclaim that you sleep with a different person every day of the week and as long as you have taken 'precautions', that's okay. Choosing to raise your children by a set of standards that have a logic behind them rather than going with the flow is deemed wrong. So many of the posts I read here make me shudder. Broken Britain indeed.

Who said it is a crime to have standards?
My point has been that we don't know how tall this girl is so we don't know if the dress will 'show her knickers'.

Don't be silly - it's not a crime to dress modestly and be sexually modest.

The OP is 'not choosing to raise this girl by a set of standards that have a logic behind them' - she's not her child. The girl is old enough to get married.

'Broken Britain'?

At least I've kept to the basics of the thread - you're just having a rant about 'Broken Britain'.
Just in case you've lost the plot - this is about a 16 year old girl wanting to wear what most posters think is a pretty and appropriate dress to a wedding.

Isn't it time for you to watch Jeremy Kyle and tut about 'Broken Britain'?

Tish_P

But Pollycat, do you not see? A young woman wearing a short dress - which by an absurd conflation of hemlines with sexual morality means she is undoubtedly a slapper! - will bring down society! Our only hope is to all scowl and tut very loudly.

Pollycat

esmerelda98 wrote: »

She expressed an opinion on her step-daughter wearing that dress and people may have differing opinions but there is no need for people to make out that she is some sort of wierdo or oddball. The fact she is talking about her step-daughter and not her daughter complicates issues a little, but I suspect the responses would be much the same regardless.

I always think how the the original post is couched tends to set the tone of the replies.

If the OP had said something like:

I'd appreciate your advice on this.
My step-daughter has been invited to my son's wedding and is thinking of wearing this dress.

She's x' x" tall and the dress is x" long so it will come to 'insert length'.
She tends to wear things like this with no tights and with high heels but I want to make sure she's comfortable for the whole day.
I don't want her to feel she's tugging it down all the time.

She's also got a pretty big bust (lucky girl!) and I'm not sure if the dress will hang right on her.

Do people think this dress is suitable for a wedding and do you have any ideas how I can persuade her to wear tights and flats?

euronorris

Kimberley82 wrote: »

Flat are casual, I always dress up for a wedding

That is your opinion Kimberley. Flats can be very dressed up too.

I spend most of my time in flats. I had to get used to them when heels starting to cause my back pain t flare up. Although I have now gradually started to reintroduce them.

But I wore flats to both my sister and my brother's weddings recently, and I was chief bridesmaid for my sister. There was no way I would've been able to wear heels then, as my back problems were at their worst. I still got lots of compliments on the day

January20

Actually, if she has large bosoms, she might be better off with something a little bit more low cut, less fabric on them and a longer dress so that it doesn't look tarty. My dd and I are quite large chested and both find that we look better in a lower cut top - not showing anything by the way! (well, not me anyway lol) But a lot of fabric in that area will only emphasise it! And surely the 36ggg was a typo?

As for the dress, it's not to my taste, but there is nothing wrong with it as it will probably look longer on the sd. We all know the rule, don't we? : You either show your cleavage or your show your legs, but not both! It would just show her legs. If you can't wear a short dress when you are 16, even at a wedding, when can you wear one then?

PS: I'm one for flat and comfortable shoes, which means that at the tender age of 48 I still have perfect feet, unlike some of my contemporaries, who squeezed their feet in sexy silly shoes and are regretting it now!

esmerelda98

Tish_P wrote: »

But Pollycat, do you not see? A young woman wearing a short dress - which by an absurd conflation of hemlines with sexual morality means she is undoubtedly a slapper! - will bring down society! Our only hope is to all scowl and tut very loudly.

I really don't want to be misunderstood and made out to be some sort of caricature. I am not making out the young girl is a slapper. I did try to make the point that not all of my post was about what has been written in this thread. However, I am certainly startled by some things I read on here. The general consensus is that those things are okay, but a suggestion that a dress is too short and you are told you are still in the dark ages.

With regards to the dress in question, I think it is a bit short, but it is otherwise lovely. If I was the stepmother I certainly would not get too worked up if the girl chose to wear something I don't think is appropriate because the teenager is representing herself and how she dresses is no reflection on me. With youngsters it is in any case wise to choose your battles. My first thought when I saw the dress was actually that the demure neckline is no good for anyone with an ample bosom. With the bosom described she needs a lower neckline. But many of the coments have been mocking, not just expressing a difference of opinion.

delain

euronorris wrote: »

That is your opinion Kimberley. Flats can be very dressed up too.

I spend most of my time in flats. I had to get used to them when heels starting to cause my back pain t flare up. Although I have now gradually started to reintroduce them.

But I wore flats to both my sister and my brother's weddings recently, and I was chief bridesmaid for my sister. There was no way I would've been able to wear heels then, as my back problems were at their worst. I still got lots of compliments on the day

I can't wear heels at all, I have double jointed ankles which sometimes just give way, and should I wear heels I would be forever falling down.

I have a friend though who doesn't feel dressed without high heels, and wears them for the school run and shopping, which would be torture for me :eek: So everyone feels differently.

I don't think anyone should be judged on their appearance by the height of their shoes.

Who said about a maxi dress? There's the odd smart one but I wouldn't wear most of them to a wedding.

That said I've never been to a wedding at the grand old age of 26, so not much experience

January20

delain wrote: »

I can't wear heels at all, I have double jointed ankles which sometimes just give way, and should I wear heels I would be forever falling down.

I have a friend though who doesn't feel dressed without high heels, and wears them for the school run and shopping, which would be torture for me :eek: So everyone feels differently.

I don't think anyone should be judged on their appearance by the height of their shoes.

Who said about a maxi dress? There's the odd smart one but I wouldn't wear most of them to a wedding.

That said I've never been to a wedding at the grand old age of 26, so not much experience

anyway, maxi dresses are sooooooooooo last season :rotfl::rotfl:

suited-aces

esmerelda98 wrote: »

I think you are one of these women who'd have a catfight in the street claiming someone looked at you in a 'funny' way. You have been very aggressive and deliberately provocative from the start, <snip>

Wait, are you sure you quoted the right post?

delain

January20 wrote: »

anyway, maxi dresses are sooooooooooo last season :rotfl::rotfl:

Oh I don't know, don't ask me, I get my t shirts from sainsburys and know nothing at all about fashion.

In fact I sit in town waiting for buses looking at fashionably dressed girls thinking

'Have they not got a mirror at home, if they had seen what they looked like they would have got changed'

in much the manner of an old woman.