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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Viper_7 wrote: »
    No - check the warranty - it does not cover wear and tear it covers failure.

    You really need to research you responses better. According to Toyota, up untill two thousand and five, they had never sold any replacement batteries.

    Toyota expect the batteries to last at least eight years or one hundred thousand miles, if they fail before then, it is not down to wear and tear.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • jase1
    jase1 Posts: 2,308 Forumite
    As for bans of diesel cars, they were stopped in Japan in 2007 due to not meeting emissions regulations (and are banned in some prefectures), some states in the US have followed (led by California)

    Right, let's have a look at what I said.

    Sales of diesel cars in Japan were stopped in 2007 due to not meeting emissions regulations. Some US states followed, led by California.

    Outright bans took place elsewhere. In Japan and California, they were ended by indirect measures.

    Stop reading things into words that aren't present.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    jase1 wrote: »
    Right, let's have a look at what I said.

    Sales of diesel cars in Japan were stopped in 2007 due to not meeting emissions regulations. Some US states followed, led by California.

    Outright bans took place elsewhere. In Japan and California, they were ended by indirect measures.

    Stop reading things into words that aren't present.

    And stop adding ones which were clearly never there in the first place. You implied that diesel cars were banned in California and I challenged you on that. Ergo, you are now trying to back pedal.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    edited 23 February 2011 at 1:01PM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Err....not even close. Depending on the car about two hundred to four hundred (sometimes more sometimes less).

    Are you thinking about a DMF, Dual Mass Flywheel?

    As I am talking about a Diesel Particulate Filter, and I strongly suspect that you won't find Vauxhall selling and fitting one for a couple of hundred.

    If you wouldn't mind publishing the place where you can get a DPF for £200 could you publish it as the Chief Exec of a large London NHS Trust will have about 200 of you.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Honda Insight


    Wow, great idea, except for the fact that it is widely regarded as crap.

    If you think the Prius is unlikely to reach the manufacturer claimed MPG then you are guaranteed that you won't reach them with the Insight, just as flawed as the Civic IMA.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    jase1 wrote: »
    Strange how there was no attempt to counter my similar argument about expensive repairs on the Prius, eh?

    If there where big issues with reliability on the Prius the Private Hire Trade in London would have got rid pretty soon, they are one of the most popular cars for fleets in London, except for Addison Lee who have mostly Galaxy's and Sharon's.

    AddLee did have some Prius for management and they may have been considering them for the fleet.

    But then they would have to change the website where they spout on about the pollution caused by the making of the batteries.

    There are literally hundreds if not by now thousands of Pruis on the streets of London being used for work, up to 60k a year, mostly round town.

    To be honest a Prius is a tool for a job, that job is low speed running around a congested city, a bit like Tokyo or London really.

    They are not as economical out of town as they are in town.

    As usual the press have assessed the negative effects of the production of the batteries on the average 10k a year, though these cars are doing many more miles than that.

    I have never heard of any Prius needing a new battery pack, and believe me the jungle telegraph that is the London Private Hire trade would have made this info' easily available to my mates still in the trade.

    A Prius isn't for everybody, but the low speed short range all electric abilities of the new shape one are not to be forgotten, you could easily drive for 20 mins in traffic without the engine starting.


    I wouldn't have an Insight or a Civic IMA as they are too compromised, a couple of lads had them and they were rubbish.


    I hate to say it but from what i have seen and heard the Prius, the mk1, mk2 and the mk3 are actually boringly reliable, I haven't even heard of a gearbox breaking!
  • Lum
    Lum Posts: 6,460 Forumite
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    bigjl wrote: »
    If you wouldn't mind publishing the place where you can get a DPF for £200 could you publish it as the Chief Exec of a large London NHS Trust will have about 200 of you.

    Just remove the filter and reprogram the ECU. Sorted.

    You car doesn't have to comply with EuroV to pass an MOT after all.


    (nb. This is MoneySavingExpert.com not PlanetSavingExpert.com)
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Lum wrote: »
    Just remove the filter and reprogram the ECU. Sorted.

    You car doesn't have to comply with EuroV to pass an MOT after all.


    (nb. This is MoneySavingExpert.com not PlanetSavingExpert.com)


    Doesn't matter what is baing saved or not saved.

    If it was mine then yes it would get taken off, insides removed, welded back up and refitted. Though the remap costs about £350 on it's own.

    However that is not the world that the NHS and Police live in, if we where to do as you suggest, which as I have said is the best solution, then there would be all kinds of ecowarriers coming out of the woodwork, the Trust would be sued by some unwashed pillock on legal aid and the Trust would have to make an out of court settlement to mr sticky and put all the vehicles back to standard.

    There is another solution by Regal Autosport which lowers the mileage that a regen is done to about 1000 miles, and then changes the regen procedure so that it occurs in any gear rather than just 6th gear above 2000rpm(from memory, may be different), this costs nearer £600 but keeps the vehicle standard.

    The NHS and almost certainly Police aren't allowed to modify the vehicles much anymore, probably liability related issues, tthough the Police did get their Vectra V6 CDTis remapped by Courtney Sport, but remember we have to buy all spares from the original manufacturer.
  • Lum
    Lum Posts: 6,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    £350 quid for a remap?

    You can get a custom mapping session on a dyno with an experienced tuner for that sort of money. You're being had.
    Fair point about not being able to do that in the NHS. I missed the NHS part of your post.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    Are you thinking about a DMF, Dual Mass Flywheel?

    As I am talking about a Diesel Particulate Filter, and I strongly suspect that you won't find Vauxhall selling and fitting one for a couple of hundred.

    If you wouldn't mind publishing the place where you can get a DPF for £200 could you publish it as the Chief Exec of a large London NHS Trust will have about 200 of you.

    Well, a bit more than two hundred pounds, but within the four hundred.

    http://www.clickcarparts.co.uk/v/Ford_Focus_1.6_2006/p/diesel_particulate_filters~13/?gclid=CISm9JOgn6cCFQwf4QodigpBYg
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
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