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Prius
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What about those that gain in value?.... they do not all depreciate.
Hence the average....
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Why is that relevant? The depreciation rate of a Prius of Passat wont be affected by an RS500 or something appreciating???
AND we're talking about TYPICAL depreciate NOT AVERAGE which is a mathmatical term that bears no relevance to the depreciation rate of any single car.0 -
The battery pack issue is irrelevant, as I now plenty that do 50k a year for the first 3 ir 4 years, being used as Pivate Hire Cars in London, one company, Lewis Day, has put it's Prius from Private Hire work to the Medical Services work to carry on working for a living taking walking patients home from Homerton A/E, some being as old as 56 plate and 07 still being worked.
I have not heard of a single battery pack failure from anybody that has used them for work.
As far as the price the OP has quoted, the car is way overpriced.
Addison Lee had two 2010 Prius that where new shape but used by management, they sold them off at around 12 months old with 35k on them for £10500, a few weeks ago.
The congestion think is no lnger relavent to the old model as they have co2 levels over 100 g/km, 104 g/km, and so the old ones are no longer CC exempt from, I think, March 2011.
I have driven one, not sold on them really, feel like a smaller car to drive, the new one is much improved, but if you do a lot of miles on congested roads then I can see the positives for owning one.
I definately prefer something like a diesel family sized hatch, more practical, better on a long run, more stable on the motorway.
But every car has its good points, a Prius is handy on urban duties, such as those that rarely venture onto motorways, or have a second car for that duty.
When the wife bought her Clio DCi we toyed with getting a Prius but CarGiant had only one in, which was above budget.
I await the posts from Inactive and "mate", saying I work for CG, yawn, but they would have ones much cheaper, leather is a nice option to have, but worth a 2 grand premium, no not really.
The old shape Prius is about to lose a lot of resale value as they will lose the "London Premium", attached due to CC exemption, anybody that is going to buy a Prius should wait until this takes a bite, it will, as probably 90% of sales of Pruis in London are due to the CC exemption, so there will be a huge amount being traded in for a new one, whichi will affect resale values.
My advice, wait for this drop in price, and don't believe any dealer that says the ending of CC exemption has had no affect on residuals.0 -
They are no more economical than a diesel.
As flyingscot has said, a modern diesel is rubbish if use round town.
Factor in the autobox and even less miles for your pound.
I wonder if anybody on here has thousands of mile experience driving automatic diesels round a city, maybe with a DPF fitted.
Is there such a person that has used a Prius round town, has loads of mates that have used them for work round London, had a mate that ran 20 when he was a Fleet director for a Private Hire company.
Oh, right, I have done all of them.
A DPF, Auto, diesel vehicle, specifically Zafira's registered from 55 to 57 plate. Used round London, with the odd run on the duwl carraigeways around and about London.
I know of none that have got over 20mpg, none, most hover around the 16-18mpg mark, the figures come from on board computers and as been said many times they are actualy a little optimistic.
Toyota Pious, when used by Private Hire, round London, lots of stop start, lots of traffic.
They will get between 50 and 55mpg, though interestingly they drop a lot when driven to say Gatwick or Heathrow.
The only person that is getting 50mpg from an automatic diesel with a DPF fitted is living in a dream world.
Don't forget that Private Hire fleet managers don't buy unreliable cars, if they had a history of battery pack failures then it would be common knowledge in the Private Hire trade. They would then have boughe the Honda IMA, which they haven't.
As other posters have said, a Pious is the car for economical urban use.
A diesel is the vehicle for use outside the urban jungle.
However a diesel is not better than a Prious round town, never will be, end of story.
What car you have is a compromise, always will be to an extent.
Would I rather drive to the south of France in my diesel Mondeo or a Prius?
Mondeo, no question.
Would I rather drive the commute to work or the school run, with traffic an obvious consideration, in my Mondeo or a Prius?
Prius, no question.0 -
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Not in the Eco vehicle sector no! hence avoid them like the plague until battery technology improves.
Buy this second hand, and within a year or so if not sooner, the batteries will be useless and will cost 2-3k to replace.
I think you need to read a few used car price guides.
The batteries have another four or five years on their warranty.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
On the subject of depreciation, my Mondeo was 38 months old when I bought it for £2450 at the auction. The purchase reciept was in there and the previous owner paid just under £17k for it.
I don't even want to think about that amount of depreciation.
I have had it for 27 months now, have spent almost nothing on it, just tyres and servicing plus some discs, pads and handbrake cables.
It is now worth about, well, probably about £2450 to be honest!!!!!!!0 -
It's an '07' plate, it's now 2011 it could be nearer 4 years old.
Also, do you understand what "average" means?
or are you going to continue with one line responses without actually reading the previous posts properly?
I look forward to your next one line unhelpful response.
As for purchasing a 1yr old Diesel Mondeo for the same money, yes you can, go for that if you're happy being able to see through the bodywork,
07 is from March to September 2007, which makes it less then four years old.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-prices/Valuation.aspx?deriv=26823&plate=84#amount=10000&years=3The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Going by the experiences of the Private Hire trade in London they will easily do 200k on the original batteries.
Not sure when they pack in as I know of nobody that has has to replace them, and have heard no stories about huge replacement cost either.
Don't forget the cost of changing a DPF, using original parts isn't that a few thousand?
To be honest though, isn't 200k enough? Though I know of one bloke that got well over 230k on his Prius, before giving it to his brother in law for free.
I think the BiL still uses it for family running about duties.
The car in question was a Y reg, the first shape of Prius.
Private Hire companies seem to run their Prius for 3 years and between 100 and 150k before upgrading the fleet.
But they tend to keep the Prius local, where they make sense, they have bigger cars for airport and long distance work.0 -
No way on God's green Earth would I run a modern diesel around town.
A kick in the knackers waiting to happen.
Worthless petrol-engined car for that task.0 -
Going by the experiences of the Private Hire trade in London they will easily do 200k on the original batteries.
Not sure when they pack in as I know of nobody that has has to replace them, and have heard no stories about huge replacement cost either.
Don't forget the cost of changing a DPF, using original parts isn't that a few thousand?
To be honest though, isn't 200k enough? Though I know of one bloke that got well over 230k on his Prius, before giving it to his brother in law for free.
I think the BiL still uses it for family running about duties.
The car in question was a Y reg, the first shape of Prius.
Private Hire companies seem to run their Prius for 3 years and between 100 and 150k before upgrading the fleet.
But they tend to keep the Prius local, where they make sense, they have bigger cars for airport and long distance work.
Err....not even close. Depending on the car about two hundred to four hundred (sometimes more sometimes less).The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0
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