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Generally when things like this are banned, older stuff is grandfathered in. I can't speak for the other regimes that Jase mentioned, it's quite possible that China just banned the lot.

But what California effectively did was to ban all new US sold diesel cars from being registered in California, thus banning Californians from using them.

The US is also a lot more strict on ensuring that when people move, they actually register their cars in their new state. The fines for not doing so are pretty severe.

jase1

Flyboy152 wrote: »

So, in other words, not all diesel cars are banned from California.

That was never stated.

Older diesels are filthy things, banned in many jurisdictions across the world

Is what I said.

Strider590

wobbley wrote: »

Only if you're an actor, and a 'luvvie'. A Toyota Pious is only a an ecological statement not a seriously economical car.

The world disagree's with you.....

The Prius is more damaging to the environment than some of the biggest gas guzzlers on the planet.

Top Gear covered this, but there are similar statements all over the web.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk

http://www.impactlab.net/2007/03/14/prius-outdoes-hummer-in-environmental-damage/


I could keep posting links all day....

In short the Prius is for idiots who want to be told theyre helping the environment, but actually don't want to use their own brain to think about it and make a decision based on facts.

Kilty_2

Strider590 wrote: »

In short the Prius is for idiots who want to be told theyre helping the environment, but actually don't want to use their own brain to think about it and make a decision based on facts.

I do and don't agree.

It's not the greenest car out there despite the claims - but it's a good demonstration of the technology and will help the advancements in such by returning some of the £stupid R&D that goes into these things.

The article you linked to is pretty biased since the Prius has been proven to have a lifespan of far, far more than 100,000 miles.

Also - the low taxation status with BIK, congestion charge etc means you can successfully stick two fingers up to the Government which given they are doing their best to make motoring a misery in this country can't be a bad thing.

Strider590

Kilty wrote: »

Also - the low taxation status with BIK, congestion charge etc means you can successfully stick two fingers up to the Government which given they are doing their best to make motoring a misery in this country can't be a bad thing.

But your not doing that..... This whole global warming con is making billions for the government and probably just as much in back handers to MP's who have links and/or shares in companies within the multimillion £ environmental industry (yes it's an industry)....

Lets take for example recycling (a good thing), but who wins the local council contracts for domestic waste recycling? No not the cheapest for the tax payer!!! it's the one that hands over a wad of cash to the right person..... In exactly the same corrupt way that highways maintenance contracts have been handed out for hundreds of years!

Some vague info

http://www.ruralroads.org/en/corruption.shtml

Kilty_2

Strider590 wrote: »

But your not doing that.....

Well by driving a standard repmobile and being hammered to death by taxation certainly isn't either.

Strider590

^^ I know but we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. For Joe Public it's a no win situation....

They insist we should be taxed more because of global warming, but if we all suddenly got on our pushbikes, they'd lose billions in taxes. It's all smoke and mirrors..... Keeps us focused on the lie's, keeps us away from realising the truth, keeps us submissive.

Flyboy152

jase1 wrote: »

That was never stated.



Is what I said.

Older diesels are filthy things, banned in many jurisdictions across the world

No, what you wrote was:

jase1 wrote: »

As for bans of diesel cars, they were stopped in Japan in 2007 due to not meeting emissions regulations (and are banned in some prefectures), some states in the US have followed (led by California), German cities have banned non-DPF diesels, and New Delhi, Athens, Beijing and Lebanon have outlawed them entirely.

Flyboy152

Strider590 wrote: »

The world disagree's with you.....

The Prius is more damaging to the environment than some of the biggest gas guzzlers on the planet.

Top Gear covered this, but there are similar statements all over the web.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk

http://www.impactlab.net/2007/03/14/prius-outdoes-hummer-in-environmental-damage/


I could keep posting links all day....

In short the Prius is for idiots who want to be told theyre helping the environment, but actually don't want to use their own brain to think about it and make a decision based on facts.

Oh please, the day I take Top Gear as a world authority on the environment, is the day I move to Mars. I can find just as much (probably considerably more) convincing "evidence" to de-bunk Clarkson's ramblings.

Viper_7

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I think you need to read a few used car price guides.

The batteries have another four or five years on their warranty.

No - check the warranty - it does not cover wear and tear it covers failure.