MSE News: Wheel clamping ban moves closer

SodG24

Flyboy152 wrote: »

What would be the breach of the peace? The consequences may be considered to a breach, if the motorist kicks up a stink. But the actual blocking in of his car won't be. He will be the one who will be charged with the offence, not me.

The action of boxing the motorist in could incite a breach of the peace thus leading to your arrest. To be honest, I'm giving up - thankfully the clamping ban will more than likely be in soon and you will have to deal with it. Maybe you'll have some time in a police cell to consider a better solution than boxing in.

oldone_2

Flyboy. I started off by having some sympathy for you, and have tried to think of solutions to your problem. Unfortunately your only response to those who make suggestions is to jump down their throats insisting that only clamping is going to work.

Personally I now have no sympathy for you, and can offer no further suggestions other than you enrol in an anger management course

George_Michael

Clamping is going, like it or not

And HIPS were going to be mandatory for all house sales,

And all UK residents would be required to have an id card,

Then there are the "knee jerk" laws brought in, such as the amanded firearms act that has had little or no effect on gun crime, but at least it provides foreign revenue for other EU countries when our Olympic and Commonwealth teams have to leave the UK to practice pistol shooting, and which has now been amended (again) to allow shooting in the 2012 Olympics.

And let's not forget the "dangerous dogs act".
Again, rushed into being due to the amount of pit bull dogs savaging people, but this caused many problems for owners of totally innocent and friendly family pets due to there being no such breed as a Pit bull recognised in the UK.
All it takes is for a couple of "experts" to decide that a dog is of the pit bull type, and unless the owner can prove differently, the dog will be destroyed.

It's fine bringing in new laws, but it certainly helps matters if the government actually has some idea of the ramifications before doing so and possibly has some ideas as what problems will be caused and how to prevent them.

esmerobbo

Flyboy I do have sympathy with your predicament I once had a business which had problematic parking. We are going to have to wait till we see the exact wording of the new laws. They are saying the clamping and immobilisation of vehicles is going to be banned. They may well state that blocking in is not allowed.

I actually stopped the parking by filling two 45 gallon drums with concrete placed each one on a pallet, placed one each side of the car park and had a locked chain between them! I even let the art college over the road paint them so they looked nice!:)

Because they were not fixed I never had a problem over planning permission.

James_Bond

Flyboy152 and gadgetmind, Please read your pms.

Thanks

Flyboy152

oldone wrote: »

Flyboy. I started off by having some sympathy for you, and have tried to think of solutions to your problem. Unfortunately your only response to those who make suggestions is to jump down their throats insisting that only clamping is going to work.

Personally I now have no sympathy for you, and can offer no further suggestions other than you enrol in an anger management course

Well, posts such as this don't help much, do they? Perhaps you anger management training advice, is somewhat misplaced.

(Just a small selection of what people can expect when they don't follow the herd on MSE)

d123 wrote:

You are quite tiresome with your ignorance, no one is talking about parking.

People can park on your land if they want, you could attempt to sue for damages if you want.

You can't however cause an obstruction to them, and shortly you won't be able to immobilise or tow them either.

Isn't life just terrible for the private car park operator?

Well done, now you are learning. One is a civil matter of trespass, the other is either obstruction or the soon to be criminal offences of clamping or towing from private land.

taffy056 wrote:

Because obviously you are an ignorant, lazy tight git who owns land and cannot be bothered to protect your assets, really it's not rocket science, you can use bollards, chains, gates, barriers, an employee to help with parking, but of course that is beyond your capabilities to use, really get this through your to your brain, clamping is being made illegal, and restricting people of their vehicle by blocking in is also illegal when it comes in, now you have about 9 months to find a solution for you, plenty of time !

Don't you think I am entitled to be a little peeved at behaviour like that?

ripped_off_driver

Despite the whining, bleating and "say it ain't so"s, these clampers will be the only ones operating next year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Clampus_Vitus

Anyone looking to pick up a tow truck (badly maintained and smelling of chip fat and other noxious odours) I suggest looking on ebay around the turn of the year.

taffy056

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Well, posts such as this don't help much, do they? Perhaps you anger management training advice, is somewhat misplaced.

(Just a small selection of what people can expect when they don't follow the herd on MSE)

Actually I was paraphrasing you from previous posts on here, you seem to have no qualms about you dishing out abuse, but if someone actually says it back to yourself you get all high and mighty, lets face it you dismiss everything out of hand, you don't even attempt to enter discussion in regards to all this, all that works is clamping, you appear to be unable to think outside the box, you appear to be the one setting yourself for a fall.

You keep on harping about proof that a clamping ban is being outlawed, here is a simple search on google

http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=clamping+ban&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

tell you what now prove to me that its not on the table. and the fact that Lynne Featherstone MP has said on her site that a ban on clamping is coming in, and as she is the minister in charge of this matter, I guess she would know a bit more about than you !

muckybutt

Flyboy152 wrote: »

If the car is parked on the highway, with no parking restrictions and it is taxed, they cannot do anything at all, except advise the owner of their responsibilities under the highway code.

Errrrrrrrrrr WRONG !

The Highways Act 1980

18 Section 137(1) makes it an offence
to wilfully obstruct free passage along
a highway. The penalty for such an
offence is a maximum of a level 3
(currently £1,000) fine.
19 Section 147A(1) makes it an offence
to use a stall, container or vehicle with
the purpose of offering anything for sale.
This does not include vehicles designed
for itinerant trading with occupiers
of premises, or if part of a market where
tolls or rents are applicable (Level 3 fine).
20 Sections 148(c) and 149 make it
an offence to deposit anything on the
highway ‘to the interruption of any user
of the highway’ (Level 3 fine). If such an
offence occurrs the owner of the object
may be issued with a notice to remove
within a set time. If this notice is not
complied with the local authority may
apply to a magistrate’s court for a
removal and disposal order. If the object
is considered a danger to users of the
highway, or ought to be removed
immediately, then the authority can
remove the object immediately and

reclaim expenses.

Flyboy152

muckybutt wrote: »

Errrrrrrrrrr WRONG !

The Highways Act 1980
18 Section 137(1) makes it an offence
to wilfully obstruct free passage along
a highway. The penalty for such an
offence is a maximum of a level 3
(currently £1,000) fine.
19 Section 147A(1) makes it an offence
to use a stall, container or vehicle with
the purpose of offering anything for sale.
This does not include vehicles designed
for itinerant trading with occupiers
of premises, or if part of a market where
tolls or rents are applicable (Level 3 fine).
20 Sections 148(c) and 149 make it
an offence to deposit anything on the
highway ‘to the interruption of any user
of the highway’ (Level 3 fine). If such an
offence occurrs the owner of the object
may be issued with a notice to remove
within a set time. If this notice is not
complied with the local authority may
apply to a magistrate’s court for a
removal and disposal order. If the object
is considered a danger to users of the
highway, or ought to be removed
immediately, then the authority can
remove the object immediately and

reclaim expenses.

Where does it say, "it is an offence to park on the road, in front of someone's drive?"