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MSE News: Wheel clamping ban moves closer

"The Government is pressing ahead with plans to make clamping and towing-away on private land a criminal offence ..."
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  • This law could have been passed within months, not years.

    They must be working out how to make money from it.

    Nothing new..
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    This is welcome news for the large part; these thugs have never been welcome. However, what alternatives are being provided for, to stop illegal parking on private land? If an errant motorist has dumped their car on my forecourt, how can I get rid of it, or punish the little beggar to make sure they don't do it again?



    P.S. Yes, I have tried chains, cones etc. and no, I can't put up bollards or gates.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • trisontana
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    This is welcome news for the large part; these thugs have never been welcome. However, what alternatives are being provided for, to stop illegal parking on private land? If an errant motorist has dumped their car on my forecourt, how can I get rid of it, or punish the little beggar to make sure they don't do it again?



    P.S. Yes, I have tried chains, cones etc. and no, I can't put up bollards or gates.

    Except it's not "illegal" to park on private land. Get your facts right. And they seem to cope OK in Scotland where the ban has been in force for nearly twenty years.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Why does scotland not allow wheelclamping as such?

    I'm very curious because money is usually the driving force between laws etc.
  • d123
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    andy12345 wrote: »
    This law could have been passed within months, not years.

    They must be working out how to make money from it.

    They have, the fine for illegal clamping or towing is going to be up to £5000 in Mag Court and unlimited at Crown.
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  • trisontana
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    andy12345 wrote: »
    Why does scotland not allow wheelclamping as such?

    I'm very curious because money is usually the driving force between laws etc.

    Because somebody took a clamping company to court and the judge ruled that private clamping of a vehicle constitutes theft because the owner is being deprived of the use of his vehicle.

    Don't forget the this only applies to private clamping. Councils and the police can still clamp. This is because the proper laws are in place to cover this.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Hehe, I presumed anyway that "legal" clamping was still allowed and excessively penalised.
  • d123
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    . However, what alternatives are being provided for, to stop illegal parking on private land? If an errant motorist has dumped their car on my forecourt, how can I get rid of it,
    you can't.
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    or punish the little beggar to make sure they don't do it again?
    why do you think you as a private citizen have the right to punish anyone?
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    P.S. Yes, I have tried chains, cones etc. and no, I can't put up bollards or gates.
    You'll just have to try harder, the only legal avenue to prevent unwanted parkers will be bollards or gates. If its your property and you want to keep people off, then adding a physical barrier is going to be the only answer.
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  • gadgetmind
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    We have an office car park that's only 5 mins walk from the city centre. Our spaces cost us £1500 per year and people regularly park there and deprive us of use of the spaces. We have tried politely asking people not to park there, but usually get a mouthful of abuse.

    We have therefore reluctantly gone the clamping route, and the signs seem to be working. What will we do if the law changes to prevent clamping? Will we once again be forced to pay for alternative parking because all of our spaces are taken by !!!!!!!!!!s?

    It sounds to me like the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater.

    Ian
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    trisontana wrote: »
    Except it's not "illegal" to park on private land. Get your facts right. And they seem to cope OK in Scotland where the ban has been in force for nearly twenty years.
    Rather than being pedantic, how about coming up with a suggestion to help with the hundreds of thousands of businesses that have such a problem. :wall:

    It is against the law to trespass on someones private property. The difference being, is it is not a criminal offence, but a civil one.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
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