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MSE News: Wheel clamping ban moves closer
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Oh please, £50k! A quick search shows access control booms available for around £600 and code/card readers for £200.
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LOL. You forgot to to include the installation of gates, power supply, the gates themselves and the maintenance and insurance cost. How much does that all add up to then; oh font of all knowledge?
I have already outlined my plan is for deterring unwanted visitors to my property.Get a grip, its going to be simple from next year. Comply with the law or don't. Your choice.Most large car parks do have a profit share arrangement, if you don't, that says more about you.
What do you think it says about me then?The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »I hope your vans fare better than our poor car park barrier did!
Ian
With CCTV trained on the car itself, if any harm comes to my property, they will find themselves in some very hot water with the long arm of the law.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Which will see you committing an offence, and for which the Local Authority will prosecute and even tow your vehicles away.
What offence will that be. The council will have no warrant to remove any items fro my private property. The vehicle will not be clamped, it merely be blocked in by other vehicles.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
LOL. You forgot to to include the installation of gates, power supply, the gates themselves and the maintenance and insurance cost. How much does that all add up to then; oh font of all knowledge?
Not my problem, its just going to be another business cost, isn't it? Many businesses seem to manage with access controlled parking, you'll just have to adapt.
until you get arrested or prosecuted and have your vehicles towed, it probably does sound good to you.I have already outlined my plan is for deterring unwanted visitors to my property.
that you lacked the foresight to make a profit from unauthorised parkers while it was still legal to do so, like other more financially astute businesses did?What do you think it says about me then?====0 -
What offence will that be. The council will have no warrant to remove any items fro my private property. The vehicle will not be clamped, it merely be blocked in by other vehicles.
Obstruction is already an offence, breach of the peace and various public order offences will see you arrested as well.====0 -
Like it or not this whole situation has been brought about by the clampers! It was they who chose to rip people off, it could well have been left alone if they had done it fairly and within the guidelines even though the guidelines were drawn up by there own. However they seem to have been accepted. However most just chose to rob people. Its them the business people whose property may be abused have to blame!0
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:Tgadgetmind wrote: »Clamping is a cheap, effective and unobtrusive solution to preventing inconsiderate motorists from blocking private land with their vehicles. Yes, there are other solutions, and we will be forced to implement one or more of them despite the many drawbacks.
While sympathising with your position, this ban has been brought on mainly by the actions of cowboy clamper's who have preyed on thousands of motorists with what has been more or less extortion.
You may think you have employed a reputable clamping company but unfortunately due to the antics of the majority of them giving their industry such a bad name this legislation has become necessary to stop these cowboys.
You may have to implement other measures to control parking and it may be costly but that is a small cost compared to the many thousands of pounds these companies are raking in from their dubious ways of conducting business.0 -
Our signs said something along the lines of, "Private Property. No unauthorised parking", which seems pretty clear to me. The new ones were supplied by the clamping company, and I'd have to wander out and read one, but the combination of wording and a big picture of a clamp is doing the job nicely.
If the clamping ban goes ahead, what signs do you think we should put up? Do you really think they'd work?
Ian
Hi Ian
Personally I think there are so many threatening signs about using very similar words that people do tend to just ignore them. In my opinion people are a lot less likely to abuse land if they're communicated with rather than at.
It might sound soft, but I think a sign which says something like "Please be considerate and don't park here. These businesses need to use this land for their customers. If you aren't here to visit us, please park elsewhere."
Honestly, if you state your case and try and persuasive I think people will respond better. Of course, nothing will stop the proper idiots out there unfortunately.0 -
Not my problem, its just going to be another business cost, isn't it? Many businesses seem to manage with access controlled parking, you'll just have to adapt.
How many busiensses have that sort of money to spend. You seem to have far too many wrong answers, how about taking sometime to think and then offer some sensible solutions.until you get arrested or prosecuted and have your vehicles towed, it probably does sound good to you.
Arrested for what? What crime will have been committed? Under what law will the council have the right to remove my vehicles from my property?that you lacked the foresight to make a profit from unauthorised parkers while it was still legal to do so, like other more financially astute businesses did?
Or maybe I clamp and tow at a lower cost than anyone else, because I believe in fairness for all. I believe that if someone is stupid enough to ignore the copious enormous signs with massive writing on them, telling them that they will be clamped or towed away if they park on my private property, it will cost them money to get their car back.
But, now that you have mentioned it. I will treble the release fee, to pay for these new gates you are suggesting I install. If anyone complains about the exorbitant cost, I will just refer them to you and you can explain to them why I have found it necessary to do so.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Obstruction is already an offence, breach of the peace and various public order offences will see you arrested as well.
Not on private property it isn't. I suggest you read a law book and get some knowledge.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0
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