MSE News: Wheel clamping ban moves closer

taffy056

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Yeah, it's funny how when the lazy beggar parking his car screams that I can't charge him for parking his car, because parking is a civil matter, but when I block him in, it all of a sudden becomes a criminal one.

I would say it's you who are lazy, you have been given various answers into this, but you want a one fit all answer, as if life is like that ! Now you know the ban is coming try looking for solutions instead of dismissing everything apart from clamping, now understand this clamping is being made illegal, it's not the users of this forum who must find the answers , it's you !

Flyboy152

Driver8 wrote: »

I do hope your business folds and you end up bankrupt. You sound a nasty piece of work.

Oh dear, someone who has to deal with people trespassing on his land takes action and you don't like it. Hmmmm......couldn't be a guilty conscience could it.

Flyboy152

d123 wrote: »

But not obstruction (or the new offences with regard the new clamping/towing laws when they come into force).

I fully agree with regard to parking, I was referring to flyboy who was saying he would block cars in with his vans, and I was saying that he would be prosecuted for obstruction and probably breach of peace/public order offences if he did.

Yet again you are living in a fantasy.

bargepole

Leaving aside the legal and financial arguments for a moment, I could never understand the rationale for clamping in the first place. A vehicle is parked where it shouldn't be, causing possible inconvenience to whoever needs that space. So you put a clamp on it, thus ensuring it remains blocking that space for several more hours. Duh!

Flyboy152

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Words fail me that this thread has once again turned into an argument along the lines of 'how can I stop cars being parked on my drive'. It always happens with clamping threads and as usual every suggestion has been refused even though no-one ever thinks twice about having a lockable door at the entrance to their indoor premises...

Here we go again. Just because you keep saying, "get a gate" doesn't make it anymore valid then it did the first time you spouted it. If you are so insistent on me getting a gate, you pay for it.

But shock horror, the protection racketeers who have been doing a threatening 'job' for free in car parks are finally going to be stopped. They have only themselves to blame. Good riddance.

Flyboy, there are no clampers with a good reputation (as if! ). Name them and we will tell you the score.

And how exactly does clamping cars solve the problem?

It teaches them not to do it again and it pays for the parking control company to do what they need to do. We don't get any repeat offenders.

You can't argue it's any deterrent if people are still parking there and being clamped, week in , week out.

Has it occurred to you that the clampers may have another agenda than 'keeping your car park clear' (think about it, that would be the very last thing they would want). If their notices were working then why would there still be 8 cars being clamped each week in your car park?

It's not my fault they are stupid, is it. I can't teach them to read, can I.

Are you seriously suggesting that the clampers are encouraging the lazy, tight beggars to park on my forecourt. Even though I have huge signs on the wall, with enormous lettering, warning them that if they park there they will clamped or towed.

And how do your delivery drivers avoid being clamped then?

Because it's bleeding obvious they are delivery drivers. The van with the back open is a bit of a sign.

Or someone coming for an interview, someone coming to pick up a staff member, passing trade calling in for info/goods/services to name just a few people who may park for good reason.

All visitors are given passes. Passing trade? Wouldn't it have better to ask what business I am in, before making those kind of assumptions. The clampers always come and ask if any of the offending vehicles are there by our permission. Like I said, we have a very good working relationship with them. As do the rest of the businesses on the park.

All in all it cannot come in soon enough. Private citizens in Britain cannot use 'sanctions' or 'penalties' against others, it's a basic fundamental of our laws and I am shocked by those who automatically think along 'punishment' lines as the first option.

You have lots of ideas about what should not be done, but apart from the cliche of "get a gate," you have never actually come up with a practical solution, have you.

backfoot

Flyboy and Gadget,

I've considered your appeal and it is rejected.



Sue the government if you don't like it.:rotfl:

taffy056

Flyboy152 wrote: »

You have lots of ideas about what should not be done, but apart from the cliche of "get a gate," you have never actually come up with a practical solution, have you.

A shame you have no ideas at all, apart from clamping cures everything, as I mentioned previously, clamping is being made illegal, whining on here won't change anything, and as I mentioned, we are not here to offer solutions to someone who is basically to damned lazy to even do a search on the net for a solution, basically you deserve everything you get as you are fundamentally not equipped to do business.

Flyboy152

taffy056 wrote: »

I would say it's you who are lazy, you have been given various answers into this, but you want a one fit all answer, as if life is like that ! Now you know the ban is coming try looking for solutions instead of dismissing everything apart from clamping, now understand this clamping is being made illegal, it's not the users of this forum who must find the answers , it's you !

Which various answers have I been given? There have been no practical solutions offered on this thread, apart from, "get a gate." Which is not possible for me to do. Apart the costs involved, I cannot get permission to enclose the forecourt, either from the council, or the freeholders. I currently have a solution, but there are proposals to end that very practical and effective remedy.

All I have done is highlighted the difficulties businesses owners have with these lazy, tight gits who trespass on our private property. I then get abuse and derision from the ones who obviously egularly park on private property every Saturday afternoon, to do their shopping, not giving a second thought to depriving others of trade.

Flyboy152

bargepole wrote: »

Leaving aside the legal and financial arguments for a moment, I could never understand the rationale for clamping in the first place. A vehicle is parked where it shouldn't be, causing possible inconvenience to whoever needs that space. So you put a clamp on it, thus ensuring it remains blocking that space for several more hours. Duh!

To cause as much inconvenience to the ignorant beggar, as they have caused the landowner and charge him for it.

ashleypride

ripped_off_driver wrote: »

In a few years we will all shake our heads and say "was that criminal practice really allowed for 20 years?"

You are spot on.