MSE Pregnancy Club 21

vroombroom

thanks guys. I've actually only seen my midwife 3 times or so, every other time its been a different one. I'm going to try and call her tomorrow.

Plans for tonight: curry for tea and grin and bear the pain and DTD:eek:
tomorrow: hunt for castor oil!!:eek:

Teenie_D

pigpen wrote: »

Current recommendations are no longer than 45 minutes at a time

Where did you find this from? I have seen it before but couldn't find anything anywhere which tells you what the recommendations are, even the FSID's website doesn't tell you. Not saying it's wrong just curious.

pigpen

digitalphase wrote: »

So, if you're going on a longish journey you're meant to stop 45 minutes on the dot and wake them up, take them out, then they can go back in? Seems unfair on bubs if they are sleeping

No, they are meant to be out for half an hour apparently.

Teenie_D wrote: »

Where did you find this from? I have seen it before but couldn't find anything anywhere which tells you what the recommendations are, even the FSID's website doesn't tell you. Not saying it's wrong just curious.

One of the mums over on the parents thread is well clued up on such things and took great delight in correcting me when I said 'a couple of hours' she did post a link which I didn't bookmark.. and I can't remember which member it was..

I'll try to find it in a bit once the grots are in bed.. had school disco so running late on bed time for the 4th time in 5 days :mad:

pigpen

Well, often you are told not to keep baby in an infant carrier for more than two hours. Why?
The truth is we do not know! There is certainly no official "time limit" and the sad thing is that the people who tell you this often do not really know why the unofficial time limit exists! The most common reason given is that infant carrier’s damage baby’s spines. We are sympathetic to this argument; we too believe a baby’s spine should be fully supported by using a carry cot. We understand a number of physiotherapists have also voiced their concerns regarding infant carriers but finding medical evidence to prove that infant carriers damage babies spines has, so far, proven impossible. If you know better than us please let us know! We would add however that "back problems" in young people (16-24 years) has increased very dramatically in the last few years and this does appear to "tie in" to the introduction of infant carriers and buggy's.

The issue of time is purely down to Oxygen desaturation and according to the Kobe report (as quoted above) this can occur within 30 minutes or so.

Aprica (a major Japanese manufacturer) also suggest that not only do infant carriers potentially cause Oxygen desaturation but can also impede a baby’s growth. They say infant carriers inhibit digestion and that in "rear end" accidents infant carriers are potentially unsafe due to anti rotation and the fact that babies head can “reverse whiplash”. We find their web site (www.aprica-eu.com) rather tedious but if you can get hold of their catalogue (we have the 2006 one) it makes for interesting reading.

from HERE

Highlighted purple bit is the relevant bit..

THIS ARTICLE also gives good info..

In truth there doesn't appear to be any proper in depth research done but desats below 95% which were shown in the second study to be apparent by 60 minutes it really isn't worth the risk IMO and desats of less than 90% for over 20 minutes must cause some damage.

I'll go see if I can find the link from last year.. it was about this time last year I think so I might not manage it.

Teenie_D

Thanks for that, they are quite old studies though, I would imagine that car seats designs have changed since then. I wouldn't be stoppng every 30 mins on a car journey but i'm sure there are plenty that would

pigpen

Teenie_D wrote: »

Thanks for that, they are quite old studies though, I would imagine that car seats designs have changed since then. I wouldn't be stoppng every 30 mins on a car journey but i'm sure there are plenty that would

They are just as relevant though given the angle of the seats is what is important and if anything they are more upright now than they used to be..

Here.. have THIS LINK too.. something else for you all to consider

Keith

Now in delivery.

Wife has now had gel and can't move for an hour.

It's gonna be a long night, doctor has already said it might be tonight or tomorrow.

koalamummy

Hope things speed up for you both Keith and it goes as smoothly as possible for your wife.

Keith

Keith wrote: »

Now in delivery.

Wife has now had gel and can't move for an hour.

It's gonna be a long night, doctor has already said it might not be tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks, I missed out an important word above

madelaine

Glad to hear Holly Willoughby has finally given birth to her Daughter, Belle Baldwin 5lb 2oz, We are still patiently waiting for our first Grandson due today, but no signs yet. Good Luck to all you Ladies due to give birth soon.