Dla - april 2011 new rules

jonnypb

sunnyone wrote: »

People dont know the slightest thing about ANY disability if they dont have it but its the goverment that make the goal posts and not disabled people.

As Billy two speakers said the RNIB have had a big input into how the new HRM applies to the blind / partially sighted.

They have to set the goal posts at a measurable point but I feel that it's been set too low for people with loss of vision especially when you see some people who claim HRM and can get around fine.

sunnyone

jonnypb wrote: »

As Billy two speakers said the RNIB have had a big input into how the new HRM applies to the blind / partially sighted.

They have to set the goal posts at a measurable point but I feel that it's been set too low for people with loss of vision especially when you see some people who claim HRM and can get around fine.

And there are people with no sight/eyes at all who can get around fine as you put it but that dosnt mean that everyone without eyes/zero vision can in the same way as vertually/unable to walk dosnt mean that people cant get around fine as you put, they may be in terrible pain and have to save up their energy to walk at all but you will see it as always been able to walk.

Indie_Kid

sunnyone wrote: »

And there are people with no sight/eyes at all who can get around fine as you put it but that dosnt mean that everyone without eyes/zero vision can in the same way as vertually/unable to walk dosnt mean that people cant get around fine as you put, they may be in terrible pain and have to save up their energy to walk at all but you will see it as always been able to walk.

Just because someone can walk, doesn't mean they don't have any problems getting around.

jonnypb

sunnyone wrote: »

And there are people with no sight/eyes at all who can get around fine

I wouldn't have thought they could get around fine in a different place

sunnyone wrote: »

they may be in terrible pain and have to save up their energy to walk at all but you will see it as always been able to walk.

That will be true for some. However, I know one person who had a hip operation many years ago and claims HRM. They can walk fine but just have a small limp, hardly any pain at all apart from the odd time and sight is perfect.

Indie_Kid

jonnypb wrote: »

I wouldn't have thought they could get around fine in a different place

Me neither. Not by the time you include buses, (knowing which one to get and where to get off) safety, etc.

sunnyone

jonnypb wrote: »

I wouldn't have thought they could get around fine in a different place

I know a man without eyes who was a soliciter (hes retired now) and he didnt let it stop him doing most things, he travelled independantly around the world, travelled by bus and train to work everyday and he always wanted to drive a car so his family arranged for him to on private land.


Hes not the norm but he does show that its more than possible to be independant and have no eyes/sight at all.

Indie_Kid

sunnyone wrote: »

I know a man without eyes who was a soliciter (hes retired now) and he didnt let it stop him doing most things, he travelled independantly around the world, travelled by bus and train to work everyday and he always wanted to drive a car so his family arranged for him to on private land.


Hes not the norm but he does show that its more than possible to be independant and have no eyes/sight at all.

He's lucky then. I know someone who has nothing but problems getting around SS only helped her after she got run over.

I struggle a lot when out. Yes, people do claim that hearing compensates for vision and vice versa; but it doesn't change the fact that I struggle (mostly due to safety issues) getting around outside.

I'm lucky some days if I can go out and get what I need without getting lost. Luckily when I was out yesterday, there was a bus stop within 2 minutes of where I was. I then able to get the bus into town and get the bus home. Getting to the place was a nightmare though. I was told to walk right the way down and under the bridge and then walk a bit more. Whilst I ended up in more or less the right place, the number was impossible to find.

nannytone_2

there was also a programme on the television about a woman born without legs, and she gets around on a skateboard.
by comparing all people who are blind/partially sighted to the person you know who has no eyes...
should i compare wheelchair users to the woman on the television?

celbelle

sunnyone wrote: »

I know a man without eyes who was a soliciter (hes retired now) and he didnt let it stop him doing most things, he travelled independantly around the world, travelled by bus and train to work everyday and he always wanted to drive a car so his family arranged for him to on private land.


Hes not the norm but he does show that its more than possible to be independant and have no eyes/sight at all.

I think that it also depends on your disposition. I should imagine that an introverted or shy person would find it even harder to get out and about (especially if they have to ask for assistance or speak to a stranger).

Also, we live in a rural area, so I have to drive my blind partner everywhere. There are no footpaths on the single track, windy 60mph roads. It simply wouldn't be safe for him to attempt to walk the 2 miles into the nearest village.

sunnyone

nannytone wrote: »

there was also a programme on the television about a woman born without legs, and she gets around on a skateboard.
by comparing all people who are blind/partially sighted to the person you know who has no eyes...
should i compare wheelchair users to the woman on the television?

If they would amputate my legs a skateboard would be a hell of a lot easier than a wheelchair but since I RA in my hands I wouldnt be able to push myself like she does, did you see her at work?

She a mechanic and she had her third child last year, shes amazing.