Apoca parking fine Luton Airport info needed please

trisontana

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I didn't say that Apoca did tow away vehicles. What I said was that the 'fine' would most likely be as a deterrent to stop beople stopping in the restricted area, thinking that if they only stop quickly, then they won't get towed away. But if you park in any security sensitive area at an airport, your vehicle WILL be towed away if the tow truck gets to you in time. And this is for security reasons.

Are you happy that that includes motorists (including taxi drivers) who have allowed their passengers to leave the vehicle when it's been stuck in a traffic jam or at a red light?

Stroma

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I didn't say that Apoca did tow away vehicles. What I said was that the 'fine' would most likely be as a deterrent to stop beople stopping in the restricted area, thinking that if they only stop quickly, then they won't get towed away. But if you park in any security sensitive area at an airport, your vehicle WILL be towed away if the tow truck gets to you in time. And this is for security reasons.

That's your whole peoblem, it's not a fine, it will never ever be a fine because only the courts can issue them. Not even the police or councils can issue fines, they can issue penalties though. But no two bit parking company can do that.

And for a vehicle to be towed it must be through legal authority, as the bylaws do NOT cover other towing in this area, it's counted as private land, and under pofa 2012! Which has made the practice illegal, that is proper legislation not the made up in your head variety you are using in your pretend world.

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

You cel keep on about armchair experts, what exactly makes you such an authority on this subject ? Clearly you have an agenda, and clearly you can't back up your claims with verfiable facts, which makes you an armchair I can't say expert as clearly you are not, but lets just say an armchair haven't got a clue expert.

I didn't say I was an authority, and don't claim to be. It is you who seems to think you are an expert.

My only agenda is to stop people giving out bad generic advice (which does happen a lot on forums).

I haven't made claims. I have just put a question mark over your claims.

But one thing is for certain is that I know far more than you about airport and anti terrorist security.

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

That's your whole peoblem, it's not a fine, it will never ever be a fine because only the courts can issue them. Not even the police or councils can issue fines, they can issue penalties though. But no two bit parking company can do that.

And for a vehicle to be towed it must be through legal authority, as the bylaws do NOT cover other towing in this area, it's counted as private land, and under pofa 2012! Which has made the practice illegal, that is proper legislation not the made up in your head variety you are using in your pretend world.

You are still going on about bylaws. It would only be a bylaw if it only applied to one airport.

fisherjim

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I do know about scam charges, and I'm not disputing that.



Luton airport is owned by the council (which means they could impose parking fines). But it is managed by London Luton Airport Operations Ltd (which is a private consortium). They is one reason why it is a grey area.

As for why they manage the parking the way they do, I don't know. But they can and do tow away vehicles, which means that they aren't governed by the same laws as most private land. So this is why I suggest caution over the generic advice given out by many people on this thread.

Something you don't know? Good grief!

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Heavily armed routine patrols, and extremely tight security???...I don't think so.

Do you actually have any clue about how tight airport security is?

Only at Heathrow & Gatwick airside, apron, baggage handling and plant rooms.

Jamie_Carter

trisontana wrote: »

Are you happy that that includes motorists (including taxi drivers) who have allowed their passengers to leave the vehicle when it's been stuck in a traffic jam or at a red light?

It applies to anyone who stops in a no stopping zone. It would be a no stopping zone for a good reason.

And as for Luton Airport, this would only be about 30m from the entrance to the taxi rank.

Stroma

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

You are just ranting, and talking jibberish now.

Go and find out from an expert, and calm down. Just because you are on a crusade against parking companies, it doesn't mean that what you say is gospel.

That's a bit rich considering you haven't backed your argument with anything but gibberish, you even think that private companies can issue fines. You are so out of your depth here that you don't even have the basic understanding of this situation.

You go from one post to another contradicting yourself, you don't even realise that you are doing it, sort of reminds me of attention span of a goldfish. The only I can see here trying to back an argument with nothing is yourself, you dismiss out of hand everything that is put to you, you arrogantly insist that only you can be right, without the thought that you could be wrong in your drivel.

Jamie_Carter

fisherjim wrote: »

Something you don't know? Good grief!

Someone else who jumps in without reading the thread. I have said all along that people shouldn't listen to armchair experts giving out generic advice, unless they check with someone who actually knows. I didn't say I know.

fisherjim wrote: »

Only at Heathrow & Gatwick airside, apron, baggage handling and plant rooms.

Not sure what your statement is saying here.

trisontana

In the case of the taxi driver, the passenger just shoved some money into his hand, opened the door and took off before the taxi driver could do anything.

So according to your logic, anybody stopped in a "no stopping zone" should receive a ticket, even though that's due to a traffic jam or a red light.

That's just like the scene in "Trigger Happy TV" when a pretend traffic warden stopped a bus and then gave it a ticket.

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

That's a bit rich considering you haven't backed your argument with anything but gibberish, you even think that private companies can issue fines. You are so out of your depth here that you don't even have the basic understanding of this situation.

You go from one post to another contradicting yourself, you don't even realise that you are doing it, sort of reminds me of attention span of a goldfish. The only I can see here trying to back an argument with nothing is yourself, you dismiss out of hand everything that is put to you, you arrogantly insist that only you can be right, without the thought that you could be wrong in your drivel.

I'm not the one who is making statements. I'm saying that people shouldn't take yours for gospel.

Can you actually read?