Apoca parking fine Luton Airport info needed please

trisontana

I like his idea that an effective anti-terrorist measure is to send a bill through the post to the terrorist. What's his next big idea, arrest them over the phone?

Jamie_Carter

atilla wrote: »

Ah, so you define attacks on persons differently depending on whatever weak argument you put forward.

Seems you don't understand the Laws of holes.

Fist law. When you're in one, stop digging.
Second, when you've failed the first law, stop talking out of yours.

Airport security is aimed at terrorist attacks. Asda supermarket security isn't. And there is a good reason for that.

All I have said is that although the bus station at Luton Airport is on private land, laws covering parking enforcement are probably very different to other private car parks, for security reasons. So advice given out shouldn't be generic, covering all private land parking.

Is that too difficult for people who are on a crusade to understand???

Jamie_Carter

fisherjim wrote: »

Statements that clearly show that you know very little about about these scam charges, the devious antics PPC's get up to, or (as has been stated before) that you actually read posts properly.

I do know about scam charges, and I'm not disputing that.

fisherjim wrote: »

As Luton Airport is owned by Luton Borough Council, and you think vehicular access and control is so security critical, why have they not then imposed "real" enforceable parking restrictions, and started issuing Penalty Charge Notices?

Luton airport is owned by the council (which means they could impose parking fines). But it is managed by London Luton Airport Operations Ltd (which is a private consortium). They is one reason why it is a grey area.

As for why they manage the parking the way they do, I don't know. But they can and do tow away vehicles, which means that they aren't governed by the same laws as most private land. So this is why I suggest caution over the generic advice given out by many people on this thread.

fisherjim wrote: »

Also, you see police at football matches, shopping centres, Wimbledon etc. etc. as well as airports, so what?

Heavily armed routine patrols, and extremely tight security???...I don't think so.

Do you actually have any clue about how tight airport security is?

trisontana

So, do you count sending out fake parking tickets as part of these anti-terrorist measures? Because that what this thread is about, not the proper precautions taken by the police at the airport. You seem to be confusing the two.

Jamie_Carter

trisontana wrote: »

So, do you count sending out fake parking tickets as part of these anti-terrorist measures? Because that what this thread is about, not the proper precautions taken by the police at the airport. You seem to be confusing the two.

How about you read the thread?

My point is about the fact that they may not be fake, depending on the legislation they come under.

trisontana

But they are, in as much as they are a private parking ticket. If they are a proper parking ticket, covered by legislation, then any court proceedings would be heard in a magistrates court and not the Small Claims Court.

If you want a real example, then look no further than Bawtry Town Council. They farm out their parking enforcement to Excel who prosecute people at Doncaster Magistrates Court.

Contrast that to the situation at Luton, where, if it ever went to court, then it's the civil Small Claims Court that deals not with law breaking, but with trespass or breach of contract law. So no "legislation".

Coupon-mad

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

How about you read the thread?

My point is about the fact that they may not be fake, depending on the legislation they come under.

The wording tells us they are fake. Why can you not see the simple (generic!) difference?

PARKING CHARGE NOTICE (issued ANYWHERE by a private scammer) = fake.

PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE (Council, or Train Operator, basically a real authority) = real.

Is that so hard? :rotfl:

Stroma

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

How about you read the thread?

My point is about the fact that they may not be fake, depending on the legislation they come under.

How about you reading the thread? The bylaws have been posted, they must operate within that to enact anything. But as apcoa do not they are just a money making scam in the context of these tickets. But as you have absolutely no idea about this, and you are utterly to thick witted to read what has been put before you, there is no point trying to educate you, people like you are the ones who perpetuate the myth of these companies punishing people and fining them.

And you've just contradicted yourself, you said above that there is n national legislation covering this but local bylaws, which have been linked to and they make no reference to the drivel you are sprouting here.

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

How about you reading the thread? The bylaws have been posted, they must operate within that to enact anything. But as apcoa do not they are just a money making scam in the context of these tickets. But as you have absolutely no idea about this, and you are utterly to thick witted to read what has been put before you, there is no point trying to educate you, people like you are the ones who perpetuate the myth of these companies punishing people and fining them.

And you've just contradicted yourself, you said above that there is n national legislation covering this but local bylaws, which have been linked to and they make no reference to the drivel you are sprouting here.

Read the posts properly, and then find out what bylaws actually are.

I haven't said that there is national legislation, I said that if there are different laws governing airports, then they wouldn't be bylaws. And the fact that they can and do tow away vehicles at airports points towards there being different laws covering them.

Jamie_Carter

Coupon-mad wrote: »

The wording tells us they are fake. Why can you not see the simple (generic!) difference?

PARKING CHARGE NOTICE (issued ANYWHERE by a private scammer) = fake.

PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE (Council, or Train Operator, basically a real authority) = real.

Is that so hard? :rotfl:

Well it is obviously too hard for you to read the OP's posts. At no point have they told us what the wording is.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: