Apoca parking fine Luton Airport info needed please

pogofish

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Since when did you see armed police patrolling marks and spencers????

Exactly, you haven't, which is because of the huge security threat around airports.

Don't even pretend to believe otherwise, because nobody could possibly be that stupid, so I would assume you are trolling.

So why then are all matters relating to landside traffic and parking management, with the sole exception of police checkpoints designated "Minor/No Change from normal regulation in the ACPO guidance for policing at airports. Which then goes-on to make clear that at the majority of airports, it is an entirely private/commercial matter.

So it seems your supposition is just as up the spout as all your other rubbish.

Now, where is the proof of your ridiculous claims?

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

How the hell do you know that ? We don't know what advice has been given. And I will put my house on it that most of those are default judgements that the person didn't even know they were taken to court, for reasons like they moved house and didn't forward their mail, and the new occupiers simply returned the mail as unknown.

I also know that at least three or four have been overturned for various reasons. You have no knowledge or understanding of the situation, your defence of these companies is flawed in so many ways, for example you think they have authority to punish and penalise people.

Who do you think apcoa are ? They are a private parking company without authority, if they had any kind at Luton the tickets would be issued under bylaws, the appeal would be to the magistrates, and they would have this on the ticket. It doesn't so it's unenforceable invoice. You not even knowing this just shows that you have no idea at all on this subject.

Do you actually read posts before you comment on them?

I haven't defended any of these companies. I am advising people to check to see that the generic advice being given out also applies to airports, that's all.

Jamie_Carter

Stroma wrote: »

You are not listening, which makes you look like an idiot. There are no bylaws covering parking charge notices, these are civil invoices issued by companies that have no authority. No matter what you say apcoa has no authority. Which means its a civil matter!

Now you seem a little thick witted, and it takes multiple times to explain something to you. Start at post one and slowly read the entire thread, when you've done that, repeat until it sinks in.

Maybe you need to understand what bylaws are before you start being offensive. They are local laws, and not legislation that is brought in nationally for security reasons.

Jamie_Carter

Coupon-mad wrote: »

No they are not necessarily allowed to any more (even though it is slightly strange, it seems they probably can't since the POF Act - except if the Police do it).

They cannot clamp or tow without a relevant byelaw or statute in fact. That's why I posted that pepipoo link for you, to 'keep you quiet' because I suspected you would assume Airports still could clamp/tow.

Due to Airport Management staff not knowing about - or assuming stuff about - the new law (POF Act) it seems they may have overlooked the need to create a suitable byelaw, which they never needed before, there are some Airports that are still clamping/towing using a private scam firm - and that was the latest thread about it. If you couldn't read the whole pepipoo thread & replies you only needed to change the 'options' and 'display mode' when viewing a pepipoo thread.

The pepipoo regular, x-streem has got a crime number and he's one of the worst people for them to have clamped, he won't let it go!!




Jeez I replied to you again...must ignore...

As I said before, the thread you posted is nothing to do with the OP's case, it is about the drop off/pick up point, and not a security sensitive area.

Also the OP's post in that thread didn't add up anyway.

Jamie_Carter

atilla wrote: »

2 in Manchester in the last week. Bot involving weapons.

Now who's looking silly?

Not a terrorist attack.

Stroma

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Do you actually read posts before you comment on them?

I haven't defended any of these companies. I am advising people to check to see that the generic advice being given out also applies to airports, that's all.

Do you actually read posts or are you actually so arrogant that you think you are to clever for that ? This thread begun in 2011 everyone has been given the same advice through it all. If it was incorrect don't you think that the dozens of people helped would come back and scream blue bloody murder?

The simple fact is that you are coming here saying that the advice is wrong without a bloody shred of evidence, I can back up what I post with verifiable facts, you come here with nothing, you offer no constructive advice , and have no idea what about this situation, you should try reading threads start back about 6 months ago and work your way forward.

But then again I know you won't do that as you are to dismissive and ignorant for that.

Stroma

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Maybe you need to understand what bylaws are before you start being offensive. They are local laws, and not legislation that is brought in nationally for security reasons.

Perhaps you should look at bylaws that apply for the airport! I have

http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/download/18/London%20Luton%20Airport%20-%20Byelaws.pdf

atilla

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Not a terrorist attack.

Ah, so you define attacks on persons differently depending on whatever weak argument you put forward.

Seems you don't understand the Laws of holes.

Fist law. When you're in one, stop digging.
Second, when you've failed the first law, stop talking out of yours.

Coupon-mad

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Do you actually read posts before you comment on them?

I haven't defended any of these companies. I am advising people to check to see that the generic advice being given out also applies to airports, that's all.

Already been done LONG before you arrived here. We know what we are talking about so stop trying to create a mountain out of a non-existent molehill.

fisherjim

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Because they employ parking management companies. Those companies put up signs warning people what will happen if they park there. If people are then stupid enough to ignore those signs, then that's when these companies carry out their threats.



If people park for long enough for a tow truck to be mobilised, then they will be towed away. The fining system (legal or not), is for people who think they don't have to obey the rules that the rest of us do, but don't park for long enough to be towed.

Statements that clearly show that you know very little about about these scam charges, the devious antics PPC's get up to, or (as has been stated before) that you actually read posts properly.

As Luton Airport is owned by Luton Borough Council, and you think vehicular access and control is so security critical, why have they not then imposed "real" enforceable parking restrictions, and started issuing Penalty Charge Notices?

Also, you see police at football matches, shopping centres, Wimbledon etc. etc. as well as airports, so what?