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  • Tehya
    Tehya Posts: 501 Forumite
    krisskross wrote: »
    I'm a carer for my husband and I get precisely nothing despite him being in receipt of higher rate AA.

    I have my state pension of £237 a month and this means that carers allowance cannot be claimed. At least if you get carers allowance you can earn up to about £100 a week without penalty.

    Not if your husband claims ESA (IR) you can't. I claim CA for both me & hubby which adds up to £85 a week but they take it off his ESA. If I earned £100 I would lose that too so for caring for my hubby constantly 24/7 I get zilch too.

    I worked out the money my husband would get if he was single and he'd only lose £20. So carer's who are married to their caree are worth nothing.
  • sunnyone
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    Tehya wrote: »
    Not if your husband claims ESA (IR) you can't. I claim CA for both me & hubby which adds up to £85 a week but they take it off his ESA. If I earned £100 I would lose that too so for caring for my hubby constantly 24/7 I get zilch too.

    I worked out the money my husband would get if he was single and he'd only lose £20. So carer's who are married to their caree are worth nothing.

    Are you and your husband pensioners like KK and her husband?
  • So OP are you going to report or not? Do tell! Haven't answered my question? I've asked you once already?
    Is it the case that you're really a coward who will only do it secretly, when you know your identity is protected,;)
  • krisskross
    krisskross Posts: 7,677 Forumite
    So OP are you going to report or not? Do tell! Haven't answered my question? I've asked you once already?
    Is it the case that you're really a coward who will only do it secretly, when you know your identity is protected,;)

    I would imagine the replies on this thread have convinced her to report possible benefit fraud and allow the DWP to investigate.

    No one needs to give their details when reporting to the fraud line. It will be the OP's choice.
  • Morglin
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    Just a quick note to say that those caring for people, and who cannot claim Carer's Allowance, and living with the disabled person, because of overlapping benefits, it is often still worth claiming it, as you will get what they call 'underlying entitlement', which enhances the premiums for any means tested benefits (such as HB, CTB etc.,).

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CaringForSomeone/MoneyMatters/DG_10012529

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  • viktory wrote: »
    This thread is not supposed to be about you, or how hard you have got it, but about reporting suspected benefit cheats. You keep on and on about your own circumstances. It is not adding anything to the thread.

    Thanks for your concern :T

    I gave my experience of what happens when someone reports another to the DWP convinced they know whats going on when the reality is no one really knows except the claimant themself, and the damage its caused to my family, and many many others in similar situations. Sorry if that doesnt fit in with your rose tinted view of the world, I have only elaborated on my experience when asked to.

    To constructively add to this thread -with your permission - I plead with anyone to seriously think carefully and be in full possession of the facts before reporting anyone.

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  • dseventy
    dseventy Posts: 1,220 Forumite
    To constructively add to this thread -with your permission - I plead with anyone to seriously think carefully and be in full possession of the facts before reporting anyone.

    Why should you need to be in the full possession of the facts? Thats the DWP role to play.

    If you have not broken any rules there is nothing to worry about.

    To sign up for benefits you need to agree to certain rules and regs, you can't complain when a test is applied.

    D70
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  • dseventy wrote: »
    If you have not broken any rules there is nothing to worry about.
    D70

    In an ideal world, this would be true. Sadly the benefit world is far from fair.

    I have only ever claimed benefits to which I am legally entitled. So by your reasoning I have nothing to fear...

    In the past, I have had my benefits stopped. On the same day that my IB was stopped a call was made stopping my Housing Benefit. I was called in for a 'chat'. I answered all the questions put to me, and was told that everything was in order - my benefits would be reinstated.

    So far, so good...

    But, they stopped my benefits immediately and then took over a week to call me in. It then took over a week to reinstate my benefits. The housing benefit took longer because they wouldn't reinstate this until they had a call from the Benefits people - and I had to remind them twice to make the call.

    So, I had no money in my bank,and I ended up going overdrawn in order to eat. My landlord - not the most understanding kind of person - became threatening when my rent was late. And then add to that the added stress for me having to prove myself and sort out the mess - my condition is bad enough without added this to it.

    I am thankful to get the benefits I do. I worked hard for many years, now I am unable to. It is not my fault that I now rely on benefits. I would give them up today in return for restored health and a chance to work.

    It angers me that a small handful of people abuse the system. (And it is only a few - don't believe the benefit-bashing hype). But I would ask that anyone who is considering reporting someone for suspected benefit fraud, please be sure of your facts.
  • L-Jay
    L-Jay Posts: 232 Forumite
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    The Mangler Please remember that those who shout the loudest may still be in a minority. Many, many of us realise that our health is the biggest blessing of all. Many of us have some inkling of how difficult things must be, and far from looking down on you, respect your courage for getting through day after painful day.


    The whole point of this government focus on benefit fraud is not to increase money for the public purse, if it were tax evasion would be a much more productive approach. Rather, along with the concerted demonisation of claimants in the rightwing press, the aim is to try and keep the eyes of the populace focused on the poor, in that old divide and rule strategy beloved of the ruling class.
    Has divide and rule ever been more evident? Tell people to be afraid. Tell people to be wary of their neightbours. Tell people to judge their neighbours and that if they are seen to have 'more' than they should it must be because they are scamming the system.
    While you're busy twitching your nets foregt that Vodafone owed £6,000,000,000 and did a deal with George Osborn, to pay about 17% of it. Forget George Osborn who lies about the amount of fraud by tripling the actual amount is the PROUD beneficiary of a tax avoidance scheme which has £7,000,000

    Forget the likes of Sir Philip Green avoiding paying hundreds of millions of pounds in tax in 2005, after awarding his wife a £1,000,200,000 dividend – the largest ever in corporate history. Because Mrs Green lives in Monaco, she saved some £300m in tax – money that the UK Treasury missed out on.
    Yeah forget all that....
  • Esoog
    Esoog Posts: 1,489 Forumite
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    I'd love to be a benefits cheat buster, it's my dream job. :D
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